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The reptiloid and emotional reactions provoked in America for a long time by all talk of interracial sex and natality almost ensure that what I write in this essay will be misinterpreted, distorted and minstrelized, especially as I am known or seen as part of the “far right” or new right. Writing this essay I know the risk that what follows will be caricatured as yet another excrescence on the corpse of the far right regarding age-old clownish preoccupations on Miscegenation and Black Male Sexuality. I will then unintentionally maybe contribute to the burgeoning moral panic partly manufactured, partly organically developing toward the tail end of the Trump years, and which I myself am writing this in large part to warn against. Nevertheless I am publishing this for those interested in unusual facts and ideas I see no one else willing to address, and also because this “problem,” or specifically the reptiloid hysteria in discourse has broken its prior containment to zones like America and Brazil, and is now part of worldwide online discourse. Some may attribute this to the internationalization of American culture or the increasing homogenization of world discourse under influence of the internet. But these theories only go so far because, for example, very important American cultural past-times like baseball, American football, etc., have found very little popularity abroad, and more important things like the Anglo-American superior temperature and measurement systems, or Anglo-American style rule of law and neutral third-party contract enforcement even less so. Those aspects of American culture that have easily spread versus those that don’t may tell their own story.
Here the most triggering possibility would be, as a character in Houellebecq said somewhere, that in the modern interconnected world the struggle between men has become global and therefore racial and postnational; but not being really political or carried out by organized groups, under the zoolike madhouse character of the modern states, this struggle takes place instead in the form of men conquering and cumming in the pussies of other races’ women, who are now and for the foreseeable future worldwide “liberated” to choose. I don’t know how much truth this provocative image contains, but it seems a frequent enough subterranean opinion that whatever’s actually going on, the brutish human brain sometimes certainly interprets things that way…
In my recent article on unusual natality phenomena in the United States of early 21st Century, many were struck by the figure that of the 20-24 age bracket for white nonhispanic mothers with some college credits in Los Angeles County, there were only 293 births total in the year 2024. Some tried to deny it altogether, while others claimed that with all these qualifications, this must be a very small population sample. To repeat, this represents a minimum of 60,000-70,000 individuals, larger than many American towns. The birth rate rounds to about zero. This number isn’t surprising if you remember this group has very strong cultural hesitations on childbirth at this age, and especially if you think through the type of young white woman with some college involvement who ends up in a big city. And the Los Angeles County number is reproduced in every other big American city. From the point of view of natalists this need not be so dire, because the bulk (in fact almost all) of nonhispanic college white female fertility occurs ages 27-34. Thus it could just be delayed rather than eliminated fertility. There is a recent trend where this seems to be moving upward in age, and considerably lower in number. But again, fertility has declined for all groups since 2008, and for black and hispanic women even more than for nonhispanic white women.
While looking at such numbers in the CDC Wonder natality database, I noticed certain other striking and unusual figures that deserve their own special treatment. Here’s a very vivid case: if I were to ask what percentage of white female births at age 18 nationally in 2024 was to an Asian father (that is, of total number of births to white mothers 18 years old in the United States, what percentage were fathered by an Asian male), I’ve found that responses vary by my interlocutor’s intuitions and prejudices, sometimes right, usually wrong. Note that in this question I don’t distinguish between white Hispanic vs nonHispanic, married versus unmarried (though the number of white married mothers of 18 is probably low today anyway); therefore capturing the very broadest possible demographic bracket. The answer is that nationally in 2024 there were twenty-four births to white 18 year old mothers by an Asian father…not percentage but 24 total births in that year of this type. This confirms some people’s intuitions but shocks others. As in the Los Angeles figure of births to the 20-24 college-tinged demographic mentioned above, many of the things I will say in what follows will confirm some stereotypes, quite starkly so, but maybe upset and surprise others. What concerns me however isn’t the testing of expectations, but the overall trends in the United States and possibly some parts of the rest of the world, which seem to me to be significant and accelerating. The bare numbers I see could without exaggeration be one of the biggest shifts of our time. And yet it all remains subterranean and mostly unmentionable.
This article is a brief summary regarding the current state of interracial births and to a far lesser extent, sexuality, in the United States, to which I intend to add later. For ease of reading I include mostly only the results and some commentary; I leave out a more detailed considerations of numbers and anomalies, to which I link here separately for those interested in testing my conclusions:
https://www.bronzeagepervert.yoga/p/appendix-to-sexual-race-war-numbers
I relied on queries to the CDC Wonder archive regarding birth certificates in America for the years 2024 and 2016. The measure I use is the percentage of total births to women of demographic X by men of the various races, in those years. For additional information I also relied on queries to the ACS census survey for years 2024 and 2014. Here I asked regarding women of demographic X with reported children 0-4 years old in their households, specifying for the race of these children, i.e., where it differed from the mother’s race. You can run these queries too. I won’t hide the fact that I’m a polemicist and entertainer primarily, and demographics isn’t my specialty. But unlike others in the commentary sphere I was I think extremely careful and modest about the numbers, their accuracy, the rightness of the methods I used. I ran these numbers by professionals in demographic and economic research and I welcome others to challenge and test my numbers and conclusions. I purposefully picked the simplest measures and numbers so as not to make overclaims.
Quite aside from interpretation or conclusion, the percentage-by-race of total births to any particular demographic of females in a year is a number very significant and also simple. Maybe the simplicity aside from potentially uncomfortable associations have stopped demographers from writing about this.
My main findings are as follows: white males are “wiping out” or “reproductively assimilating” the Asian population through interbreeding with Asian females. Asian females are outbreeding asymmetrically with white males at rates comparable to a rapid post-conquest situation by outgroup males. Black males are at the same time reproductively assimilating or absorbing the non-Mexican white Hispanic population on the eastern seaboard and upper midwest, and also to a lesser extent significantly altering the proletarian or “noncollege” white nonhispanic population in parts of the United States, again by asymmetric female outbreeding rates comparable to post-conquest situations. The white “noncollege” population is furthermore “breaking down” demographically quite aside from this, with recent massive reductions in overall fertility; again, of which black males are providing an increasing share of the biological paternity.
The reference here to “conquest” is in regards to numerical patterns, not to underlying motivations, or the actual phenomenon today. That said, this analogy regarding asymmetric breeding is not just sensationalism…however different the modern mechanism, the only other pattern where such asymmetries appear in history are in post-conquest situations.
Asian Fertility in America
The Asian case is both clear and fascinating. In America, Asian female fertility takes place more than any other racial group’s within the bonds of marriage. Asian girls are very “traditional” this way. However, they are highly exogamous. (I think words like endogamy and exogamy are technically wrong in this context, but I’ll use it instead of writing “same-race” “other-race” and so on; I don’t consider a Sicilian marrying a Swede, a Japanese marrying a Korean, or a black American marrying an Igbo to be “endogamy”) In 2024, 17.4% of births to Asian married mothers with some college credits and up were to white males. However they had a significantly lower fertility than their white female college counterparts. Whereas white college nonhispanic married women have a TFR at 2.6-7, well above replacement rate, Asian females have carried over the East Asian low fertility to the New World, and are probably in the 1.4-1.6 TFR range. Asian married women at the 20-24 age bracket are entirely or almost entirely endogamous—no doubt a relic of immigrant conservative network effect—but the rate of outbreeding with white males steadily rises with age. A huge 25% of Asian female births at higher ages are to white male fathers. (For purely East Asian females it is even slightly higher than this)
As for babies by black males, the figure for this Asian female group is very small, all of 232 births nationally of this type to college Asian married females. [NOTE: I am leaving this number as it is even though it’s probably not correct, given the CDC suppression of “small cell” data, i.e., counties where number of births fall below 10 are suppressed in the overall count; the real number is probably several hundred, or high hundreds…still remarkably low] All of these exist solely in the 30-39 age ranges, in other words younger nonhispanic married Asian mothers give zero known births by black male fathers. The general trend here wouldn’t surprise many I think, but the starkness of the specific figures might.
It’s unclear what happens to the “left over” Asian males, as this situation is not at all symmetric. The rhetoric of the liberal optimist is that racial mingling and mixing will take place but that the results will be generally random and therefore more or less equally distributed, as you’d expect if “color-blind” behavior was the norm. But the results are obviously unequal, have always been, and everyone knows this. Asian males aren’t for example “exchanging women” with white males as would happen in a traditional fusion of two peoples (by contrast, the Jewish subgroup is being significantly eliminated through mutual and mostly symmetric intermarriage, although both hardcore Jewish ethnic activists and the rabbinic Jewish denomination known as antisemites are trying to stop this). White women aren’t having babies with Asian males at any significant rates, married or unmarried. About 97% of births to married college white mothers are by white fathers. Of the remaining 3%, about 1% each is to Asian males and to black males. The asymmetry by which Asian males are excluded from this exchange, whatever its causes in a modern context, is numerically characteristic of historical conquest and reproductive displacement by introgressive or elite outgroup males.
An adjacent interesting question is the use of these natality numbers as a very imperfect proxy for sexual contact outside of marriage or the bearing of children. At moment I can only see the natality rates as an honest marker for measuring this, however distorted and delayed. Surveys are completely worthless here, for too many obvious reasons…the self-selection bias on who would answer such surveys, the dishonesty in self-reporting on anything that has to do with sexual behavior, and so on. Girls especially will lie even on “anonymous” surveys about their sexual behavior or preferences. Sometimes also their understanding of themselves in words doesn’t match their behavior. As a pervert with relish, I’ve had girls in context of both friends and affairs confide in me things about themselves they’d never even tell their husbands, once they saw I wouldn’t judge them and was interested in their lives. Most would never say on a survey, nor take one. Here very useful would be dating app data, but Tinder, Hinge, Bumble and so on keep race information hidden from the public regarding match and response rates. There is an old study about OKCupid match rates but it precedes 2015, and I think things have changed since then; furthermore OKCupid would have captured a different phenomenon than the newer dating apps. Until I have this data—and some has been promised to me in confidentiality over the next year—the birth rates and so on are an imperfect and much-filtered but at least a very certain proxy for revealed preference.
Especially in the case of, say, highly prudent and anxious college Asian females, birth rates are a significantly distorted marker for sexual contact, filtered through many other decisions. This is why, when I mentioned to friends the 17% actual interracial natality rate for Asian women, some expressed surprise that it would be so low. In my last article on fertility I remarked that the life path of the Asian female as a group is in one sense very “conservative”: they are highly prudent, have children almost only within the bounds of marriage, go to college, prepare for jobs, are not on drugs, have negligible criminality rates. They’re not bohemians, delinquents or rebels and desperately want not to be part of an underclass. In college though, and living in a professional urban setting as a single woman, they are hardly celibate, maybe even the opposite; and probably date white males at rates considerably above 17%. How one measures “sexual contact” here is another interesting question: ranging from, say, one-time experimentation, to an option on her menu occasionally invoked and maybe not consciously processed, to habitual, to preference, to near-exclusive preference. But at some combination in many urban and college settings the intuition I’ve found among those I spoke with from America is that a third to well over half this group in some locations would have some contact within that range of behaviors with white males. If this is correct the actual child-bearing rate would be a significant undercount. So when looking at this you must consider contraception and many other options and decisions…in general in modern contexts if 17% of a female group’s births are to fathers of other group X, that’s probably a big undercount of sexual contact with that group.
Where Asian males are left in all this is an uncomfortable question. I think an entire visible, economically prominent and relatively small group’s males being significantly displaced from reproduction and sexual affairs is a somewhat serious problem in a “free society.” At the very least it is cause for the worst kind of racial resentment or wish for revenge, subterranean or not.
As to why Asian parents would choose to emigrate to nations where their sons are outcompeted to this extent, or for other reasons left out on this important metric, I don’t know…except that maybe they don’t know about this, don’t want to think about it, think it won’t happen to their son, or value material comforts and “status” and “career” above this aspect of life.
Interracial Natality of White and “Hispanic” females
For white females the situation is very different because this is a much larger and more heterogenous group. At the national level among nonhispanic white women only about 3% of their births in 2024 were to black males. A slightly higher percentage than that—maybe 5-6% although it’s hard to measure—was to “white Hispanic” males if you consider that a separate race. But on the CDC birth certificate queries these appear to be classified as white fathers. Other male race groups besides black captured negligible shares of white female fertility within both married or unmarried groups.
The 3% national figure of black paternity to white female births is in my opinion highly misleading. It includes vast swathes of America where there are no or almost no black males, for example. What concerns me here in’t an overall national statistic, though that is important for different reasons; my question is what happens when the potential for mixing is applicable, and then how and in what directions. The demographic engine of white America is the group of white college-educated married mothers: these have a TFR again well above replacement rate and are the source of the bulk of white babies per year. And yet this is a self-selected group that is smaller than people think. Then also the fact that a 35-year-old married white mother in suburban Wisconsin has a second child that gets recorded as part of the overall shares of births in the year 2024, while important and interesting for other reasons, is not as relevant to the question I’m approaching here and actually obfuscates it. White female fertility patterns vary widely by subgroup, whether geographic and especially sociological and it’s worth tunneling into this for a moment to see also what the trends are.
Among nonhispanic white women, 25% of births in our time are unmarried. This share has risen since the 1990’s, when it was only 10-15% or so, even while the raw number of unmarried births has drastically declined. There’s some sociological “cope” on this point: some say that the rise in unmarried mother classification among whites isn’t strictly the stereotypical “single mom” in distress but refers to cohabitation and simple lack of a marriage certificate. I think this is wrong, and that sociologically, cohabitating couples in e.g. Brazil or Scandinavia would be married in the United States. The “unmarried” group continues to be highly dysfunctional in America, and it’s growing for whites—a fourth of births isn’t nothing, although considerably still less than the 50% and 75% illegitimacy rates for Hispanic and black women respectively. But important to remember: the “unmarried” demographic category for white women is also larger than the married category, even controlling for age, that is, there are more unmarried than married white women over the age of 18 or even 22 I think; the fact they only produce 25% of births for white females overall is because of a very low birthrate among this very large “group.” But here also remember that all groups in America—including blacks, hispanics, etc.—have had much reduced fertility since 2008 (arguably black females have lower fertility currently than white, or at least much faster-declining). The decline in numbers of babies to nonhispanic white mothers since only 2016 has nevertheless been very great: there was a 16% decline in total number of births for white nonhispanic married mothers with some college involvement. This is the group still with the highest TFR in the white demographic—but 190,000 fewer births in 2024 than in 2016. And a considerably bigger 25% decline for the unmarried white mothers in total numbers of births.
Given a lower absolute number of births, especially among unmarried women, the racial structure of these remaining births is also changing, in some cases quite fast. When it comes to outbreeding there is a big difference first of all between Hispanic and nonHispanic white women. It’s worth looking for a moment at the fertility of “white” hispanic women (whatever you may think of their true racial or ethnic classification).
The Hispanic group is divided between those of Mexican background and other groups like Puerto Rican, Dominican, etc. women. The Mexican group is much larger and lives in a vast part of the western United States where contact with black males is often minimal. They also tend I think to live still more often in “traditional” ethnic networks. Among unmarried “white hispanic” mothers in that Mexican or Mexican-adjacent group, only 2-3% of their births are to black males. But among the (mostly non-Mexican?) group living in a huge corridor from the eastern seaboard through the upper Midwest, the share of their births to black males is often astronomical. In certain cases like Bronx County, for example, about 14% of this group’s overall births is to black males where race is recorded, and about 20% in the younger age bracket of 20-24. This is again as a share of those births where the father’s race is actually recorded on the birth certificate, but there’s a huge component in this and most other locations in America now where the father’s race is marked as “unknown.” Both for numerical and sociological reasons that I address briefly at the link above, I believe a disproportionate share of “unknown race” fathers in many locations in America are in fact black fathers. Depending on how you measure this, I would estimate that in reality 30% or even close to 40% of the births to unmarried “white Hispanic” mothers in Bronx County in 2024 were to black male fathers. While this is at the upper end, I’ve found very high figures in nearly all the counties of the eastern United States: regularly 14-19% of known-father-race births were to black males with the true percentage (accounting for share of unknown) possibly anywhere from 25% and up. This is among unmarried white hispanic mothers but…again, 50% of their fertility is unmarried. Among younger age brackets these percentages are even higher (which appears to be a swift change from the situation in 2014-6).
Based both on this and on the enormous rates I found on the ACS Census survey, where in the households of white Hispanic unmarried women, up to 29-30% of children aged 0-1 were coded as involving some kind of black classification, I have to conclude that in most of America’s east coast cities at least, the “white Hispanic” group is being reproductively absorbed by the black group at a rather fast rate.
For unmarried nonhispanic white mothers, I found the following. With a few very telling exceptions which I will address in a moment, in most of the top 30 (and in fact top 50) counties by total unmarried white nonhispanic births, about 10-15% of the known-race births to nonhispanic unmarried white mothers are by black fathers. There is notably a 9% floor on this share almost nationally. It doesn’t matter if it’s the northeast (Massachusetts is actually a very active contributor, including in formerly “endogamous” working class cities like Fall River), the sunbelt, Florida, San Antonio Texas, Cold Springs Colorado, the southeast, the upper midwest—Ohio and Indiana counties are again very consistent “contributors”—this floor holds regardless of region of the United States, and is present equally in almost all poorer and wealthier counties that include some minimal black male presence. There is furthermore a second “floor” at age bracket 20-24 where this percentage normally shoots up to 19-22%. Again these are the known numbers only, without taking into account the composition of the “unknown” race-of-father component. This holds in America among unmarried white mothers wherever a minimum threshold of 5-6% black male presence is reached: again county borders are hardly “real” but it’s the measure I had and it appears that any minimum of 5% of county male population as black will generate these numbers regardless of region or city.
Furthermore in most of these counties there are zero CDC-recorded other-race fathers to this demographic. In other words, it’s an entirely bimodal phenomenon, where the known race of the father is either white or black, but no other race.
Adjusted for the likely disproportionate share of “unknown” fathers that are black, the percentage in question shoots up to a regular 20-30% of all births for all age groups in these higher-contact counties—again this applies to unmarried white mothers only, who in turn only produce yearly 25% of white female fertility. But the trend since 2016 among this demographic is steep and seems to be accelerating. The known black paternity rate for this group has risen nationally from 6.7% in 2016 to 10.3% in 2024, which represents approximately 54% relative increase in eight years. That’s a near-doubling and if you tunnel into the numbers, it’s bigger than this in actual contact areas because again, this includes parts of America where there is minimal black male presence. Furthermore it’s almost all driven by the other significant shift: the “second” floor I mentioned regarding the 20-24 age bracket. In most of the top 30 counties by number of unmarried white mother births, a fifth of known-race-father births was to black males at ages 20-24 in 2024 (the real percentage is likely higher)…but this was not so as recently as 2016, when it was on average half that, around 9-10%. What happened in Richland County, South Carolina is an outlier in magnitude and may seem like a small-n anomaly, but it’s not anomalous in direction and is in some ways just a stark representation of this trend: in this location unwed white mothers at ages 20-24 had 9% of their births to black males in 2016, but by 2024 this had jumped to 28% in this age group—small-town South Carolina (one should not imagine these are SEC University of South Carolina sorority girls bearing children) converged in less than a decade to the situation of bigger cities like Charlotte.
I need again to emphasize that in these last two paragraphs I’ve been referring to known percentages and not addressing the huge “unknown race of father” category that is very large at these ages in particular (births 15-24); so I’d guess the actual and true percentage of black paternity to this group is often higher than 20% and could even approach much higher in some locations.
Some will now say, “You, a Pervert, are making a big thing out of nothing at all, and something that’s been known for so long it’s become a stereotype and a joke: yes, the single mom with the black baby is a fixture of Americana in the sense that it’s lower class, uneducated, obese urban lumpenproles or rural hick girls doing this. It’s long been a part of joke-stereotype repertoire. This group you are studying as you yourself said only encompasses 25% of white female fertility, and it is furthermore an atypical and pathological subset. You can’t draw any conclusions from their behavior to generalize to that of middle class and upper middle and so on white girls…and you yourself said married white women exhibit near-total endogamous fertility. You speak of unwed motherhood at ages 20-24 but the vast number of white female fertility takes place ages 27-34. You’re talking about essentially fat crack-ho single moms, I mean what did you think the data would show? This is not important.” I think the claim that I’m studying a pathological subset of white girls is an important counterargument so I’ll address this and some related matters.
Regarding the “teen mom with mulatto baby” joke stereotype, it’s important to remember that such things were not the case some decades ago: in the 1980’s there was a “teen moms” public scare and much handwringing over the rise in “teen moms.” The numbers of “teen moms” peaked twice, in the early 1980’s and then 1986-1991, driving a lot of the moral panic around this at the time. In those years roughly half a million teen births per year were produced in America, of which a substantial number were white girls. Most of these births were also unmarried (although in many cases especially ages 18-19 it led to shotgun marriages). These births were not 20% and probably not even 2% to black males: the vast majority took place in parts of the country that had minimal black presence in fact, in Appalachia, parts of the Midwest, in white Southern towns that were still at the time socially and sexually segregated, and so on. For comparison, the number of unmarried teen births among nonhispanic white girls was in 1986-1991 many times the number of today’s unmarried teen births among the same demographic, but didn’t involve any substantial black paternity. So while it’s true that the stereotype of “single mom with mulatto child” has existed for a long time in the United States as a cautionary morality tale and a type of joke, it’s important to realize it was a relatively rare phenomenon…but is not today. Today the number of unwed white-white especially teen pregnancy has been drastically reduced.
The exceptions to the pattern of unmarried white motherhood in our day are very informative too. I will speak of Queens County, New York, and Miami in Florida side by side because I think they don’t hold to the national pattern for similar reasons—each has black paternity to unwed white mothers only at the level of 2-3% of total births. There’s significant black presence in both places, so it’s not for lack of proximity to black males. But the whites residing in Queens are disproportionately “ethnic whites” and I think include many recent immigrants, including from the ex-Soviet sphere. White girls residing here giving birth to a black baby may come under more disapproval than elsewhere because of increased “community surveillance” on this matter, or for other reasons. In a similar way in Miami whites or white hispanics of Cuban origin live in a relatively integrated community with its own culture and again, interracial births may mean some type of “community disapproval” or sanction. I imagine that fathers of white daughters in these places would like to take the credit for this “difference,” but on the “restraint” side I would attribute it much more to friend network effects and their opinions regarding having a mixed baby. While for Mexicans living still in relatively linguistically, culturally and more important, financially segregated communities in the vast west of the nation I would believe that something closer to “community control” and “paternal oversight” may hold, I think in Queens and Miami what’s going on for white unmarried mothers is something similar to the life path for urban and middle class white married mothers, which is that the general friend and community effect, as well as similar life-path expectations, substitute for middle class prudence and “education” on this point.
Another maybe even more important explanation for this difference on why unmarried white motherhood looks so different in these counties is the fact that their white male peers come from a similar background where they have not been in a sense demoralized or rather forbidden by law and custom from impregnating an 18 or 20-year-old girl. A Cuban or Latvian or Russian Jewish youth may well be more willing to knock up his 18 year old girlfriend in a way that his white American (meaning…assimilated into white liberal SWPL or Red State evangelical American norms) counterpart may not, and may face less consequences for doing so. I’d say this “positive” or permission-to-their-boyfriends element is more important than the other.
Another notable and relevant exception is Nassau County in New York. Nassau has a decent n for white unmarried mothers at just over 600 births in 2024. This portion of Long Island is 11% black residents, and in any case it’s right next to New York; neighboring Suffolk County is 8% black. As per the national pattern, Suffolk County, with 1322 unmarried white NH births, hits the 9% floor of births to this demographic by black fathers (it is likely quite a bit higher, as the unknown-father-race rate on birth certificates is high here). But unmarried white mothers in Nassau county have only 4% of known births to black fathers. Furthermore and very atypically for America in 2024, there are zero recorded black-fathered births to this demographic at the age brackets of 20-24 and 25-29. But something is special about Nassau County—it’s very wealthy, one of the wealthiest counties in America. This part of Long Island also has a certain established character and its own lore, and is unlike neighboring Suffolk county even. Unmarried white motherhood to residents here is upper middle class or in some cases upper class and is very different from the phenomenon in other parts of the country. If I can speculate, having known more than one upper-class girl who serially has babies out of bounds of marriage, they tend to be a certain type that’s different from the “single lumpenprole mom” stereotype, and generally will have babies far more often with white males.
White girls likely to have out-of-wedlock births residing in Queens, Miami, and Nassau are continuing an old pattern of unmarried- and teen-mom reproduction that remains endogamously white, which was common in America in the 1980’s.
The “noncollege” white female demographic regardless of marital status, whatever it actually is, seems to be in a process of rapid transformation. It’s important not to overstate what these demographics are; they’re not actual “groups” in many cases. An unmarried white nonhispanic woman at 25 may well be a married one a year or two later. These are huge and heterogenous groups. Noncollege white may include working class, lumpenprole, whygger and many others including Amish and Hasidic Jewish and so forth. Now, married noncollege white females are on one hand very “endogamous,” with negligible black paternity (again other races of men besides white and black, at least as recorded by the CDC queries, are not in play anyway on these metrics). But although the total pool of college and noncollege white women is maybe similar at around 14-15 million each, college married white women produce just under 1 million births per year or so, and noncollege married women far less, at around 200,000 per year. That’s in part because the marriage rate among noncollege white women is collapsing but also because married white women with no college degree actually have significantly lower fertility than their college counterparts. Among this group, unmarried motherhood is rising and black males are capturing an increasing portion of that fertility, even while the absolute numbers of unmarried pregnancies is also fast declining. Taking a step back, if you were to look at rates for “noncollege” white women regardless of marital status—lumping in married and unmarried on the CDC numbers and simply looking at the “college” factor—there are very high rates of black paternity for example all over the South, and also in many other places where there is actual social proximity with black males. It’s not in my view plausible to attribute this to simple “wokeness” or “antiwhite propaganda,” as some would claim, because, again, it is only black males and not other races of males who are introgressing into this fertility…which is to say, these shifts may very well be in part a result of some type of propaganda, and later in this essay I will explain what this is. But it’s not merely “antiwhite,” it’s specifically pro-black-male, which deserves its own explanation.
Note on the Foolishness of Conservative Media:
Oddly enough in the end, the bulk of (endogamous) white nonhispanic fertility is to college-educated women. I say oddly enough because this is at odds with the latest conservative fixation that college “morally corrupts” young people, and the constant advice to their (relatively small, thankfully) white audiences to drop out of college, stay away from college, become plumbers and live a “traditional lifestyle,” etc.; quite aside from the massive across-the-board decline in both marriage and fertility that all members of the noncollege group exhibit, the lifestyle would indeed be traditional, but it wouldn’t be Amish-Anabaptist-type traditional, it would be Akan-Ghanaian-adjacent traditional, in the sense of representing a situation analogous numerically to conquest by Akan males.
Again I don’t think college is the cause of these numbers any more than the supposed institution of marriage is, but that these correspond as “brand markers” to certain types of life-paths and sociological groups. But the middle-aged conservative and “new right” claim that for example “AI” will end “girl-bossism” or that careerism among the upper middle class female contingent is “thankfully ending.” Or the separate claim I’ve heard that think tank and Heritage Foundation and Natalism types are currently trading among themselves, that “generation alpha and zoomer girls” are foregoing career and college to have “handsome husbands, religion, and traditional families” is an exquisitely twisted delusion: mostly older movement conservatives are hearing what they want to hear from their younger interns on the make, and don’t understand that at scale “no college and no career” for females translates into “downwardly mobile”…and with this downward mobility and economic stagnation, an enmeshment in a social sphere that produces, again, a “traditional” arrangement they may not expect.
In the late 1980’s to 1990’s, nonhispanic white “teen moms” produced more babies per year than the married noncollege nonhispanic white cohort as a whole does today, and certainly more white babies.
Some Further Reflections on Asymmetric Breeding and Sexuality
In this essay I’ve referred at times to “conquest-analogous” outbreeding numbers: the post-conquest analogy refers obviously only to per-generation rates of asymmetric outbreeding and not to the underlying motives. In much of Latin America the paternal lines are European and the maternal are native. This is more extreme in some regions: in Colombia’s Antioquia province, 90% of paternal lines are European and 90% of maternal lines are native. That particular situation may have been triggered by a very extreme asymmetric scenario in the years immediately following Iberian conquest, maybe including massacring the local men or most of them. But female outbreeding with a smaller male outgroup even at only 15% per generation can compound over generations to achieve a similar effect. (Thus “elite dominance” can in fact resemble “population turnover” in the genetic record, at least without further investigation). We could call a 15% asymmetric outbreeding rate (meaning each generation 15% of births to females of group x are fathered by males of group y, but not vice-versa) typical sustained post-conquest situation. But even a 10% rate is very high and likely to cause enormous demographic shifts if it’s kept up over generations. In fact a simple “hypergamy” asymmetric outbreeding rate, where within the same people or nation commoner women will outbreed asymmetrically with upper class men, sometimes producing bastards, is I think historically only at around 2-5% per generation, or at the lower bounds of that, maybe just 2-3%.
In these historical situations there is often coercion involved or significant financial incentives that trigger these asymmetries, besides the often-now-remarked-upon “hypergamy” or “female hunger for status or for powerful men.” In our time the racial mixing is consensual and there’s no overt force coming into it, but it’s the resulting percentages that interest me as a matter of analogy, not the cause. Historically women didn’t have sexual or reproductive selection freedom in the vast majority of cases, at least not sanctioned. I am trying to think of exceptions. One could be premodern north Europe: in England there may have been complaints from Saxon men about Saxon women preferring Norse settlers and outmarrying or simply cheating with them at rates bad enough to persist as a common rumor and complaint. In the record of John of Wallingford from the 13th century there’s the famous mention of Danish settlers’ popularity with the local women. Because of their physical attractiveness, clothes and hygiene the Norse introgressors attracted married women and even reduced the daughters of local noblemen to their “concubines.” (This is written some centuries after the supposed phenomenon but it’s still interesting for all kinds of reasons…it obviously persisted as a sore rumor, and the chroniclers accurately preserve Scandinavian (and early Indo-European Bronze Age) male grooming practices). Modern-day assumptions on historical total male control over female sexuality are unwarranted; especially in north Europe as in Rome and possibly Sparta, etc. women had considerable freedom. Even in sequestered-marriage situations such as at Athens, women had plenty of opportunities to cheat: see Lysias 1 court speech. Then of course there is the beginning of 1001 Nights, the event that triggers that whole tale, which is also relevant to my point). In ancient Greece women were sequestered but by classical times in many cities upper class girls at least had the right of veto over the father’s choice of husband. This may also have had some effect in a racially heterogenous society, though as yet this is unstudied; and given the upper class practice of cremation by that time, not easy to investigate.
One anomaly that interests me is among Polynesians. Polynesians are a varying mix of Austronesian navigators from Formosa and southeast Asia, and Melanesians. They spread out to the broader Pacific after mixing events, probably multiple, in Fiji and elsewhere around Vanuatu. There is higher Melanesian component in Tongans and Samoans, and higher Austronesian in the Tahitians and Hawaiians, but all are Austronesian and Melanesian at one ratio or other (Guam may have been unadmixed Austronesian prior to Spanish arrival). One thing I find odd is that the paternal lines are more heavily Melanesian and the maternal Austronesian. I wouldn’t have expected this given that it was Austronesian ships and sailors introgressing into more primitive Melanesian territory as explorers and settlers. And places that have close to 90% Melanesian component, like Vanuatu, still speak Austronesian languages. I don’t know what accounts for this oddity and don’t want to make assumptions until I know more. I suspect that in this case it was a warfare phenomenon where the two peoples had comparable military technology and the Melanesians outcompeted on this basis; Vanuatu appears to have been a megacidal event. There was also differing susceptibility to disease: the heavily genetically Melanesian areas are affected by malaria much more than the Austronesian-leaning areas. Melanesians have innate evolutionary immunities that Austronesians do not, with Papua ancestrally a malarial zone. It’s anyway interesting to compare historical stereotypes among European explorers on the differences between the Tahitian Polynesians versus the Tongans and Samoans.
But it’s hard to think of many other historical examples of “consensual outbreeding” simply because again consent in anything like the modern sense, or rather freedom of female sexual and reproductive choice, was not usually in play. Modernity seems to be running an unprecedented experiment, at least at scale. In this last claim however must be included a strong reminder that it isn’t even an environment of true sexual freedom, free choice, or free competition, because quite extreme anti-young-male social and cultural restrictions have been erected by older generations in the last ten to thirty years. It’s no longer really the 1960’s, though at times both the conservatives and the left find advantage in pretending it is. And these recently-imposed restrictions may severely distort any supposed freewheeling “sexual market.” On which I will comment more at the end of this article.
One can only speculate about whether the starkness of the unmarried white female fertility figures in high-contact counties translates into sexual access patterns as well. I have to guess that the rates of sexual contact with black males among whatever sociological subgroups of white females that produce these fertility numbers have to be considerably higher than the actual interracial natality rates. As to whether this generalizes to the college-educated and middle-class white female population, or to what extent, I don’t know and you can’t really trust anyone’s word or personal observations on this, not only because this highly “psychologically triggering” matter is likely to be distorted in people’s perception no matter what side of this they fall on, but also of course because girls lie. The college-educated white girl population’s reproduction is almost totally severed from their sexual behavior so their low percentage of interracial births in my opinion can’t be used as a proxy to claim they have a low percentage of sexual behavior with black males. Births in this group are almost entirely zero overall in the age ranges 20-24 and very low even 25-29, with the vast bulk of their fertility at 30-34. So not much can be directly deduced about their sexual behavior at ages e.g. 18-25 regardless from these numbers. Without access to Tinder or Hinge data (especially the response rates would be even more relevant than the match rates, etc.) this answer will have to wait. But my instinct is that while the decision not to use contraception at younger ages, or to forget to use it, or to go through with an unplanned pregnancy at those ages, or in particular to go through with a pregnancy at any age by a black male…these are all for various reasons mostly probably yes, much more prevalent among lower- and working-class white women; that is, the reproductive choices and so on, which bear on life, financial, and career path. But my guess is that it’s harder to argue their social and sexual behavior is that different from their middle-class-and-up counterparts. America is simply not so segregated by class as some still think when it comes to tastes and habits. The internet has in any case homogenized much of American (and world) “culture.”
Suggestive here is the geographic ubiquity of this phenomenon: these birth rates among unmarried nonhispanic white girls are again universal in America wherever there is a minimum 5-6% black male presence, regardless of “regional culture,” whether in the south, northeast, upper midwest, etc.; suggestive also is the sharp upward direction of these interracial birth trends since 2016 among younger age cohorts, which is a remarkably short time for these types of changes. While it’s probably true that middle class and college white girls have different sexual behaviors than noncollege, working and lumpen-class ones, I don’t know how far this difference goes. I suspect it’s not as little difference as fetishists and black power advocates imagine, and not as much as others on the other side think. Again, I’ll have to wait for the dating app data.
Note on Black Female Fertility Structure and Outbreeding with White Males
Superficially there’s an “exchange” of wives between white and black demographics in America. Anywhere from 3% to 6% of known-father-race births to black females were by a white father in 2024, depending on whether you look at nonhispanic only, or count known or ambiguous Hispanic status. Either way, this rate is similar to the national rate for white females with black males. But there are a few problems with concluding this is a symmetric exchange. First of all the structure is very different. Remember that for black females 70% of their fertility at least is unmarried. For black females, the births with white male fathers take place in higher proportions at older ages. Although the overall percentage of outbreeding with white males has risen since 2016 (though at a lower rate than that of white females with black males), this rise has taken place almost exclusively at birthing at ages 30-39; for the 20-24 bracket, there’s actually been a 12% decline of births by white fathers since 2016. This is the opposite pattern to the white female-black male change, where there’s been a sharp increase (really often at least a doubling) in the unmarried 20-24 age bracket, where it’s now around a constant minimum 20% among that category in most of the top 30 and top 50 counties, and higher in many urban low-n cases.
Foreign-born black women with some college education, who are not part of the black American community or identity, and who I had expected to cross over in marriage and fertility to other races more often are in fact far more racially endogamous than American-born black women. The rate of “unknown” among such groups is much lower, the rate of crossing over to white males falls from 6% known (among American black females) to under 3%; they have a much higher known black male paternity than their American-black counterparts.
There are zero recorded births to Asian males in 2024 for this demographic of foreign-born black females. There is no emerging professional-class Igbo-Han hapa in America at least.
More important in judging superficial percentage symmetry versus asymmetry is the relative size of these populations. At 13% of American population, the size of the black group is much smaller than the white, so these “equal” rates within each of the female groups’ fertility in fact are misleading and represent a per-capita black male introgression into white female fertility several times the size of white male introgression into black female fertility.
On the other hand, it may also be that not many white males want black females either for sex or for babies. I think it’s important to remember this part of it too. American black women maybe because of the severity of the obesity and unpleasantness crises in that community being especially unsuitable to many male tastes, if these should be even in the slightest selective. In 1976 it was normal to see a movie like The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, by John Cassavetes and starring Ben Gazzara. The main character in this film refers to his “beautiful black girlfriend” who is “black and beautiful.” That was a time when thin black American women still existed in number. In many racially mixed countries thus black and mulatta girlfriends and mistresses have a good reputation sexually among the men of other races, who seek them out for affairs especially. The obesity bomb (and concurrently the unpleasantness revolution) has eliminated this option of a black girlfriend for white working class men in the United States. America is a long way from 1976. So it’s important to remember this here, that a lot of “conquest-analogous asymmetries” may simply be the result of abstention and refusal in this sense on the part of one group’s men. But…it’s not my intention here to flesh out the reasons for said interracial symmetries or asymmetries. The numerical analogy to “conquest” in the case of the white male-Asian female or the black male-white-Hispanic-female interbreeding asymmetries was just that…an analogy to historical numbers, not so much to causes. In this case there seems to be a not-as-severe asymmetry as there is in the other cases; the white-black asymmetry could maybe disappear if white males preferred black females at higher rates (or got over hesitations at knocking up fat white girls at higher rates)…I don’t know. I will be attacked for this by both sides but in America’s case I don’t see how the persistent problems caused by the black minority can be solved aside from somehow reproductively absorbing this minority. As an internet wit long ago said: “End Racism. End the Black People”—meaning, through love. (Of course America’s understanding of race and racial categories would have to change to something similar to what existed in pre-20th Century South Carolina as well, where an octoroon could be considered legally white; the “one drop rule” is of Northern origin, and it’s necessarily socially-defined, as no genetic or even blood tests existed at the time of its inception; many fully-biologically-white individuals were discriminated under this rule simply because of who they associated with.)
But in any case it’s true that the black female crossover to white males doesn’t trigger people as much, for whatever reason. I suspect though I can’t prove that part of what gets to people in the white female-black male case isn’t so much the interracial fertility, which although striking and rising is still limited, but the possibility that it’s a more significant undercount as a proxy in terms of the sexual situation in many parts of America; where possibly something that was mostly limited to lower socioeconomic status and fat white girls no longer is. But again, I have to wait for the dating app info for this, if even that should resolve it.
In 2024 there were 1200-1400 births nationally to black females of any type by an Asian male father, representing at most 0.25% of all black mother births. There were 265 Pacific Islander-father births, and 700-800 Native American-father births to this group. [NOTE: initially I had 113 Asian-fathered births here…that is indeed what a county-level CDC query returns, because cells under 10 individuals are suppressed for privacy reporting guidelines; these add up nationally…so real number is higher than what I initially wrote here. Still freakishly low for these groups though…] I think Steve Sailer suggested that as the two most sexually excluded groups in American society, black females and Asian males would have a reason to pair up, but I think it won’t happen and it’s probably a crazy idea. The figures here comport with a stereotype held by many, but I was unaware just how stark it would be. The idea that in a nation of hundreds of millions, in big cities where two groups over-represented in those settings and come into frequent contact…that it would lead to 113 births total, nationally, between two major racial groups…is objectively remarkable.
Cultural Reception of Interracial Sex and Fertility
It’s interesting to think about the possible ways these various sociosexual shifts are filtered through discourse, opinion and rumor. The two biggest overt complainers in American society are those you would expect, Asian males and black females. These are groups heavily affected by asymmetric sexual and reproductive shifts, and left with few other options. “Asian masculinity” forums, the flooding of 4chan and other boards with various kinds of sexual neurosis by Asian males both from the United States and China, and the incessant whining and complaining of black women in American media, academia, and society at large are all old news to any internet addict. White female resentment over Asian females and white male resentment over black males is also relatively common: the former is not enough appreciated for how amusing it is. I’ve met completely liberal college white girls who sounded as deranged about Asian girls as online white nationalists are about black men; yet only the latter are considered fair game for jokes. But the white population is still of very large size, and when it comes to any sexual-market displacement, both white males and females have considerable other options especially sideways (and occasionally abroad) that Asian males and black females do not. Thus although antiracists want especially to press on these trigger points to “pwn” “white racists,” it is the complaint of the black female most of all that is loudest on this in America.
A matter so far not much discussed is the response of the white Hispanic males to these shifts in their societies. By what I see in the natality numbers, this group seems to be by far one of the most affected, to the point that—let me be sensationalistic without being wrong—they seem to be significantly reproductively and probably sexually displaced in many locations by black males; and it is not idle sexual dalliance in youth without consequence in this case…the non-Mexican, non-Cuban white hispanic “communities” are likely to be almost completely reproductively assimilated by black males in America over the next few generations. Their “silence” on this could be explained in part by the fact that of all groups in American society, though the Hispanics have enormous numbers and demographic weight, they are almost completely absent from American media, “culture,” and discourse. A prominent Hispanic actor like Oscar Isaac is a good example of the difficulties here: an alpha male celebrity like this is untouched by this phenomenon himself, and is too different in his background and situation from other “hispanics” in America to speak for or even understand their situation. In any case he would obviously frame discomfort with this sociosexual shift in language directed against whites somehow, or framed through broadly liberal-left assumptions.
A possible notable media effect though is the online “community” wrongly called “groypers” (a term that DC conservatives illegitimately appropriated from a very different online organic right wing sphere that was banned in 2017-21 and never returned under that name, which they consider spoiled at this point). Where these are real posters and not the sock accounts of DC GOP consultants and the SPLC, they seem to be Mexican, mestizo, or mixed-Latino young males. There’s also a considerable Indian (subcontinental) and Pakistani male component too, on which more in a moment. Much about this “community” can be explained as a reframed discourse around this unnameable shift: their embrace of “incel rage” combined with exaggerated “Catholicism” and insistence on “community.” These last are then misread by white nationalists as solidarity regarding immigration from the Global South, or opposition to the left, or are embraced by “ex-gay” or closeted gay portions of the “religious right” and the new GOP for their own reasons. In my opinion, unlike the typical American suburban white, these would be mostly males from recently urbanized Latino and mestizo communities in the process of dissolution, or themselves first-generation white-Latino mixed, facing identity uncertainty. They are living in “white hispanic” urban and especially suburban biomes where the sociosexual shift of young females toward black males, but also certain other sociosexual shifts are especially pronounced.
The other shifts I speak of in this case concern the matter of sexual competition with white males. In this case as well many Central American, Mexican, mixed-Hispanic and other recently-suburban Latino males are also at a considerable disadvantage. (This is very similar to Brazil where native and white-native mixed males feel themselves at a considerable sexual competitive disadvantage with respect to both white and black males in the big cities and areas of contact). They would then maybe have a direct view that others do not: they see the more closed, more religious and traditionalist Mexican communities remain “immune” to a two-front sexual-reproductive displacement.
Though this group does often implicitly and sometimes explicitly refer to their keenly held assumption that sexual competition with black males is not possible, in my opinion their attitudes toward this situation among their female co-ethnics are reframed into attacks on what they see as the “ultimate cause”: the dissolution of religion and their communities, which they see as the only ways to enforce female “race loyalty.” And therefore the culpability of an external villain—less often Liberalism, Capital, Protestant modernity, but now especially and finally the Jew—as the cause of the dissolution of their perceived reproductive-sexual shield (communal life and solidarity) against “outgroup” white and black males.
The psychology of this group, torn between various identities and social crises, is incoherent as often happens when sociosexual resentment (a displaced but impotent imagining of revenge recast as noble indignation and the desire for justice) is the witches’ brew motivator. It’s interesting to study, and I can only comment on it briefly now especially because this essay is primarily about birth rates—that’s where I have unusually precise numbers in the American case because of American birth-certificate-documentation-practices. On matters of sexual differential success and competition I can only speculate for the moment, and I do so now only as an incidental tangent that’s fascinating to me. But anyway, competition with white males, although on closer analysis the more sociologically close and imminent matter for this diffuse group of Latino and Latino-adjacent males, and probably the triggering phenomenon, is often reframed by them into a double rhetoric regarding blacks and Jews. On one hand, very much like mid-century Jewish urban males who also felt keen sexual rivalry and competition, or rather an inferiority complex with respect to white nonJewish males (apparent in movies and TV shows well into the 1980’s, 1990’s, etc., e.g. very prominently the work of Philip Roth and Woody Allen), Latino youth in the process of “assimilation” recast this instead as an exaggeration of the sexual and physical attributes of black males (who in some markets of exposure also crowd Latino males out, thus leaving them assailed from two sides). Second, as they see themselves as white or white-aspiring, anti-Jewish polemic becomes a method of passive-aggressive displaced hostility at white males in general, but also at the same time a way to seek a basis for a new solidarity with whites, as an identity plausibly, in the realm of polemical rhetoric, victimized by the same sociosexual-historical forces.
This has to remain speculation for now, but it would explain a lot about this “media phenomenon,” and why it includes primarily white-identifying Hispanics. There is also a variety of other minority males who are possibly also significantly displaced by black males in urban as opposed to suburban environments (in particular the Andrew Tate demographic of indeterminate-race urban males who get bottle service at the club only to see black male success in these environments with their intended female targets, but without similar spending or efforts; this would include more the urban as opposed to suburban Hispanics, i.e., whites of Caribbean descent, many Middle Easterners who have difficulty passing for white, and other various neoAmerican mixes).
Furthermore and most tellingly, among the new “mainstream online antisemitism” community wrongly called “groypers,” there seems to be also a significant Indian or Pakistani male element, especially in universities. I think the causes of this are similar to the Hispanic “white” males. The “Asian Indian” female in America is an outlier among “Asian” female groups in that only 3% of her fertility is to white males, with the rest remaining endogamous. The vast majority of these, however, I would guess are living in still-strong ethnic networks and although they do arrive in America through H1B programs and college-associated activities, they remain mostly an unassimilated society apart. They rarely come into friendly sustained social contact with other races and are not involved in “elite” or prestigious professions but the equivalent of spaghetti-code sweatshops and similar lumpenprofessionalism. These Indians would not be part of public life at all in this form. Almost all their fertility is after the age of 30. For what I’m about to say I rely on my own observations only, which I’ll retract if other evidence appears but: this national fertility result is not reflected in the sexual behavior of Indian females in the top colleges in America, where discourse is actually generated. With zero exaggeration I say that I’ve never seen an Indian college girl who hasn’t had a white boyfriend, and sometimes exclusively so. I don’t know what “elite”-school Indian girls are doing regarding fertility and marriage later in their lives, but I’m willing to wager with anyone on this observation regarding their college and urban youth professional years. Indian males in “elite” settings, then, who are as highly verbal and plausibly as effective at public discourse as Ashkenazi Jews were, nurse a similar grievance at white males. They may end up as the socially respectable marriage choice, but…
[NOTE: as there are numbers of comments I am guessing from Indian males who are triggered that their women may love to fuck white men in college, I am adding this clarifier; my claims were about Indian women at top schools where discourse is generated, I don’t claim to know what Indian ladies at vocational H1b programs or who work in call centers get up to, nor does it matter as that group isn’t really part of American society. I will grant you that they (for now) live under the thumbs of their husbands or such. That said, as there is no survey I trust on these matters and as CDC data restricted to top 20 or top 50 school degree holders is not available, I did a proxy for PhD and professional degree holders. Here Indian females have the same outbreeding rate as the Asian group overall 16-17% so…
I’m sorry if this offends you by the way, life in a free society may not be to your taste.]
The extreme animus of East Asian and Indian subcontinental males at being sexually excluded from American society is usually not directly expressed. More often, like ethnic Jewish males in similar situations in the 20th Century, this discomfort is reframed as an over-exaggeration of the sexual success of black males with white females. This is a subterranean form of “revenge” against the hated white male who is displacing Asian males in sexual and reproductive access. Again in many cases lately Asian males redirect their ire specifically at Jews as well.
Midcentury Jews at times at least sublimated this resentment into often competent comedy, slapstick and poking fun at themselves. It remains to be seen if the current crop of “newcomers” to America in response to similar frustrations have within themselves anything other than poorly-understood and parvenu speculations on test scores, IQ, “HBD,” credentials, etc. on one hand, and angry rants about religion, ethnic community, and various conspirashit on the other. Not to speak of the endless leftist-identitarian mobilization of minority lumpencollege classes.
The reception to interracial dynamics for blacks themselves is amusing. It isn’t only the black female that has a persistent grievance here. Whatever does exist of black male sexual success threatens to be undone also by the internal structure of this within the black people themselves. Statistically blacks are disproportionately affected by obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. Childhood obesity is more common among blacks than whites. I think their group has also been affected by a general decline overall in physical culture and the same taming- or captivity-process that degrades all contemporary male populations. If something will end black domination of American culture and possible disproportionate success in sexual competition, it won’t be any contrived reaction-invention like “white boy summer,” but the internal degradation of the black community. This seems well under way: being “an anime nerd who can’t get pussy” will kill and is killing all black preeminence.
But I mean to say that the accelerant of black male allure dissolution is its structure: black male success so far is concentrated only in a small minority at the top. In fact though e.g. obesity has long been widespread in that group, it is a “cope” to focus on that, because it isn’t the average black male that drove any shifts. I think the sexual and to some extent the reproductive shifts are and were driven by the top 10-20% of younger black males, who are maybe at most 1-2% or so of the American population (and even less if you consider how many are jailed). This obviously leaves out a huge portion of blacks who may actually feel their exclusion from this dynamic is especially painful, as it shatters expectations or delusions. My guess is it is many of these who then express their pain, together with black females, in politicized and ideological racial-grievance language, including absurd complaints about the “fetishization and objectification of the black male,” in which they are not included, and so on. (A similar phenomenon takes place with Indian subcontinental males who absurdly try to pretend that the cultural sexual allure that attaches to black males in American society transfers to them—by “direction of hue” I suppose—and react very badly when they find it does not; the recent much-publicized and apparently fraudulent lawsuit by an Indian white collar employee against a female Albanian JP Morgan executive for “sexual harassment” with exaggerated and delusional statements about his own sexual attractiveness and potency, and with references to his imagined “college basketball” career, is an exquisite piece of present-day Americana). But few things are more unattractive than this constant whining and complaining. It is thus the blackcel, left out from the dynamic in question, who ends up smearing by association also the image of the top and shrinking 10-20% of black males; and over time degrading their cultural importance.
The 2020 George Floyd riots, whatever their operational origins in the political activity of the left, may nevertheless have been given such broad support in American and west European society because of ambient sympathy for otherwise culturally-salient black males specifically. This would have been not purely or even primarily for their status as victims, but because of cultural, athletic and other sociosexual allure. But at the same time this could have marked a high-point of this admiration: these demonstrations but even more the so-called “woke” post-academic media agitation just before and after 2020 would have tainted that entire group with the stink of grievance-victimization and strident unattractive Activisms. The front-speakers and faces of that grievance movement have simply brought to public media consciousness the hysterical and uncool bigger “under-demographics” of the black social structure.
Contrary to what some white nationalists and neoreactionaries believe, neither the knowledge about the high criminality and incarceration rates of black males 16-24, nor the constant (and self-defeating) warnings that “they will beat and abandon you” would in any way be demotivators for most girls of whatever race; in fact these things, as well as similar other complaints would and do greatly add to the glamor of this group in our overdomesticated and boring time. But the presence of a loud, vocal, very visible and extremely annoying blackcel anime-watching whining class certainly is.
America is a wonder: an egalitarian project on paper, in ideals, and in all public and often private wishes and language; in practice, a place where cholos will ethnically cleanse historical black areas like South Central Los Angeles of all blacks through low level organized violence, while black males sexually genocide Boricua men on the east coast.
Meanwhile “White hispanics,” college Indian males, and other recently-American racially indeterminate males led by gay social media influencers respond by blaming Protestants and Jews for their loss of sexual position to black and white men, and are then applauded by gay and hag DC “conservative intellectual movement” Catholic converts for representing a “religious revival.”
Some portions of the far left and various ethnic lobbies or ethnics applaud meanwhile these racial and demographic shifts without fully understanding either their scale or nature. Some of these in particular celebrate black male sexual success as a sensitive exploitable trigger point and also out of their own long-standing sexual inferiority complexes regarding white males, “white fratboys,” and the 1980’s movie blond bully. They don’t see that in ten or twenty years, the situation resulting from these shifts won’t necessarily benefit them politically or socially.
But I’ll add and leave for later elaboration that the far left has for now by far the superior “propaganda” position on this trigger point, can use it to manipulate the new right into self-implosion if it wishes, and probably doesn’t even need to…but can wait for this self-destruct process on just these related matters to play out internally to “the right.” Unfortunately the conservative/white-nationalism-lite synthesis emerging as the public face of the right at the end of the Trump era gets filtered through to mass society and especially to unmasculine, unsexy white conservative males as a catastrophic and self-defeating preoccupation on this point. It seems that Elon Musk, quite aside from whatever this represents for the American right, is himself preoccupied by this matter and has long been; and is deliberately stirring it up and accelerating it into broader discourse because he can’t tell apart his emotions from effective political messaging.
It’s easy for vast public-facing swathes of “the right” to spiral quite organically into a vortex where it would appear at least that the Civilizational Dangers of Black Cock are and always have been its primary concern and motivation. Consider the alternate possibility where some impish individuals on the right would have been able to paint the public image of the far left, of feminist women, or finally of the stereotypical leftist white female, as seething losers seeking revenge against Asian females for sexually or culturally outcompeting them. If it were possible to do, that would result in a generational discrediting of the left as a type; and this is where by analogy I think Elon Musk’s Entirely Sincere Intentions are pushing or facilitating “the right,” unfortunately. And anyway quite some time before this, the shift to earnest, strident empty-headed blonde girls angrily repeating nationalist hysterical boilerplate to a camera for boomer men functioned already as a kind of pornography for rage-consumption that was leading inevitably only in one buffoonish direction. These media figures were already walking caricatures and it isn’t hard for far leftists and transsexual Antifa to make interracial porn edit videos of their all-too-serious tirades. I think this is rhetorically effective with broad audiences and discredits nationalists for any intelligent and impish viewers in particular. And they need internet energy of a certain type if they’re not to devolve into Facebook spiritual geriatrics banging a cane on the floor. As I said, there is at present unfortunately no convincing response to the left pressing on these triggers. Elon & co. have helpfully banned and censored any of the few accounts that might have been able to mount an effective and humorous counter-response.
Finally regarding media and literary reception of these phenomena; on the white male side of complaints, this dynamic could have also produced the prime texts that gave rise to “red pill” and “manosphere” discourse, the early essays of F. Roger Devlin. I don’t want speculation on the motivation or genesis of these essays to take away from their content. I think they’re genuinely excellent and, whatever triggered their composition, they speak for themselves and are applicable to many cases outside of whatever originated them. They explain for example also the collapse of the black family in America, among many other things. Entirely sexually successful men of any race would do well to read them carefully. But I heard comments-boards rumors and from friends, that Devlin came out of the society of southern gentry, which seems to have been especially affected by this shift. Which is to say, the entire world of Southern debutante environment, cotillion, presentation balls and the whole structure of the fraternities and sororities in the big southern universities and the SEC schools was an elaborate and powerful matchmaking set of institutions. I hear they still sort of are. But as the sports teams became predominantly black, there developed a double world where the overt social institutions still existed but in reality much or at least a significant portion of the sex lives of the sorority girls in college shifted to the black athletes. The contrast then would have been very heavy: still-existing social traditions and institutions, pretentiously overseen by naive and delusional boomers, that in fact had been hollowed out of their original purpose and now served only as a hypocritical and humiliating public playact while in fact sexual competition had shifted to an entirely different field of combat. This would have strongly affected the feelings of any intelligent participant, especially one maybe naturally shy and entirely dependent on those formal traditions rather than his own social abilities. This doesn’t need to be as universal as either white nationalists or fetishists imagine it to be to lead to such reactions: if black athletes captured 15-20% or even less of total sexual encounters with white sorority girls, that would be enough to significantly displace or at least negatively affect the lives of the more shy and less-socially competent white participants in that system of matchmaking. It would be a sufficient enough disruption to have them view the entire set of institutions and rituals as a humiliating sham transmitting fundamentally a lie, a kind of pretty traditionalist lie on top of a sordid reality that is swept under the rug by social conservatives and the religious especially.
I’m not saying this to take away anything from the final insights of Devlin’s essays, because in my view these insights apply to modern society and its institutions as a whole: not having to do with any racial dynamics at all, but because of analogous dynamics in actually every existing country and community, what I just said regarding the hollowness of public morality describes the meaning of still-existing traditions, religions, institutions, group-identities, and nations.
An Underground Phallic Cult?
Since the year 2000 black preeminence in American culture seems almost absolute, and it’s mediated almost only through black males. A majority and in some cases supermajority of the most popular American sports are black athletes. Sports in America will continue to occupy prime cultural weight and so long as blacks do so disproportionately well in sports, it’s unlikely that America’s fascination with and to some extent “political and social protection” of black males will ever stop. Rap or hip hop have almost completely replaced any other kind of music especially among younger audiences; furthermore, black argot and slang has almost completely transformed youth slang by 2020. I’m amazed to hear clueless conservatives refer to the “traditional” and Sober generation Z or alpha, when between themselves and out of the ear of authorities or older people, zoomers switch to entirely black intonations and slang. These trends have always existed in America, but have accelerated since 2000 and crowded out almost everything else.
(I am aware of recent claims that the popularity of “hip hop” has much declined in the last two years. But these supposed changes are partly the result of how top songs are measured due to internet streaming versus other kinds of sales, etc.; and blacks are still very prominent in the music that is currently topping charts. The worldwide cultural impact of hip hop and black cultural forms is still very great. Also, it’s only familiarity with this fact for quite a while now that makes it seem “normal”; but it’s about as remarkable as if Balkan folk songs of the territories of ex-Yugoslavia had a 30-40% share of whatever music worldwide youth listens to. Insular Japan’s recent takeover of a large share of youth culture is also objectively remarkable. Anyway, any supposed changes in the cultural prominence of black males would be quite recent, explained in part by what I said above regarding the Covid-era hissyfits and revelations, and wouldn’t affect the rest of what I’m saying in this section).
Then there’s pornography and the internet. Internet porn has become ubiquitous and easy to access, including by youth, in a way that was not the case before 2000. “Blacked” appeared in 2014 and has since then gained a big share of porn viewership—I don’t know the exact figures here, and in any case I don’t really trust demographic audience analysis regarding porn, but Blacked and copycat “high production value” interracial sites have certainly risen rapidly in popularity and constitute a considerable portion of traffic now. Blacked has also achieved pop culture penetration, with offhand mentions in all kinds of venues, shows, movies, etc., widely disseminated internet memes and real-life jokes and so on. Associated mass trends on TikTok and elsewhere about “bbc” and casual mentions regarding black male sexual or physical prowess are also frequent by the 2020’s…most are meant as provocations and jokes but also serve to normalize an expectation, and function as massive PR in my opinion. Recently on Kick among streamer girls and in other parts of the internet, this trend as of 2026 is also fast accelerating as a way to generate outrage engagement. (In Europe where I live most of the time and where the unpleasant aspects of black public behavior and American black women are mostly never a part of everyday life, these American-media “exotic” promotions are even more powerful; there’s much less of the bleak everyday median counterweight to contradict it). It’s unclear to what extent younger generations born after 2000, and then those born 2010 and after have their sexual imaginations or tastes affected at formative years by increasingly prominent interracial porn: I think it’s easy to overstate this and get hysterical about it, but it likely doesn’t have zero effect.
In particular, the entry point to men’s psychological interior empire has always been potentially through pornography. And now with the advent of the internet, it probably is the key to the inner world of men. This may not be a direct or easy relationship, as the interpretation and reaction to porn of whatever kind widely varies among individuals. But because certainly conservatives and then also “right wingers” and religious “dissidents” see porn as something Degenerate and immoral, worthy only of blame and censorship, they de facto abandon this very potent psychological tool to others (any pretense to banning porn is technologically illiterate and could only be half-achieved by restricting all youth access to the internet. This would also deliver the young entirely into establishment educational channels and Teacher-approved friendship pathways, which both Europe and Red State America seem to be speedrunning now).
More broadly beyond porn there may be some type of acclimation to general media and social environment involving casual and not casual glorification of black male prowess. This shortcircuits overtly political and ideological angles of life in ways that I think leaves conservatives of certain types speaking irrelevant nonsense. So another way in which traditional conservatives are clueless in this sense, and in this they are joined by “redpilled,” “aware” and “noticing” white nationalists and neoreactionaries, is again in their excessive focus on black male criminality and violence. This is obviously a problem in American (and other) societies, but it’s very foolish to think it would be in any way an obstacle to the trends I’m talking about. In fact a reputation for violence and danger probably is a considerable boost to young black males in competitive sexual and social environments. Quite aside from the fact that it often enhances a man’s allure to many women to be perceived as dangerous, in this case in social situations where in fact violence wouldn’t actually be on the table, this reputation can still act as a significant confidence-booster as well as intimidate potential competitors. Thus the conservative, white nationalist, and neoreactionary common fear of black male physical danger and the perception caused by this that there is an actual domination of “the streets” or public spaces or social situations acts as some of the best possible PR for young black males. This reputation for danger turbocharges the mass media, music- and sports-domination, porn ubiquity, and social media dynamics into something that I imagine is psychologically very weighty.
The loserish standpoint from which the “critique” of this is effected is remarkably myopic: from 2000-on, and increasingly so after 2008, building wealth through a corporate career has become far more difficult, and the entire career-educational middle-class path part of life is for good reason experienced as especially unpleasant and onerous by anyone taking part in it. Young people especially are either shut out of normal career paths, or, more important, they experience corporate life and the arrogance of employers as especially intolerable today. Maybe more so than at any time in recent history. In this of all times the conservative as well as the other “right wing dissidents” think it’s good copy to present yourself as the Tiger Mom office-job race, and black males as to be “denounced” for being untamed, alluring, hypersexual disruptors of this. To be clear, I don’t myself share this judgment—I’ve said before that black people are a dependent population which is being financially and legally handheld. They act entirely in a kind of ward-of-the-state sandbox-delimitation of actual life. But black males certainly in the modern media biomes have the image of freedom, and the most foolish possible response is the white nationalist type that has been adopted from Jewish male-Asian male messaging that, “they are dangerous stupid bad boys, while we are the dutiful, studious janitors of society.” In our time when corporate and office life and its “virtues” are almost entirely discredited, and maybe for good reason, this all has only one possible outcome.
The most impotent of all things in this situation then is to try to refer to charts and graphs about “black male criminality” or IQ, or to “warn” young white women that they will be beaten, impregnated and abandoned by truant black gangsters if they “consort outside their race.” The phrase “race loyal” is beautiful in its provocative and presumptuous stupidity, and obviously encourages the opposite in modern societies where legal and extra-legal power of male mate-guarding coalitional groups is nonexistent. The idiotic refrain “13 do 50,” referring to the fact that 50%+ of homicides are committed by 13% of the population, for example. To which one could answer, it would be only the male part and those 16-30 years old maybe; so by then you could say, “3% do 50%”; however, this again is not at all a demotivator to women on its own—and can easily be turned into a meme with a very different meaning. And when I see the pathetic remnants of “the right” melding with hoary and geriatric conservatism and turning almost entirely in that direction I want to remind the reader that I’m not conservative, never was…and also that I’ve never considered myself part of the Altright, the dissident right, the new right, or any of the other names generally used for what’s emerged as the public face of what had been happening on the internet before 2016, but with which in fact it shares very little.
In response to everything I’ve said so far about the image of young black males, the standard response from both large swathes of the right and left is that it is a “psychological operation.” Much of the left would say similar, but referring to the “fetishization and commodification of the Black body for consumption,” instead of theories about racial corruption, replacement, or the pushing of miscegenation by media Jews or the CIA or others. In Alex Jones’ telling, the CIA “invented” hip hop to corrupt or destroy the black community. But I think that any marketing or PR has to be at least plausible. For a variety of historical, cultural-educational, and I believe yes partly also biological reasons it’s very likely that the type of blacks in the New World, in particular in the United States and parts of the Caribbean, would possess, at the right-hand tail of their population distribution, a significant stack or suite of traits that compound to make this kind of media amplification plausible and not just a fantasy or an invention. Regarding the biological side of it, it would account for a “fatter” far right hand tail compared to most other broadly-defined populations of men. This could be explained in my opinion by the Gold Coast origin of American blacks, and maybe even more so in certain subpopulations of that part of Africa—not anything else like subsequent experiences of slavery, etc.; the deep history of some non-Bantu populations on the Bight of Benin, who went through the highest pathogenic load probably of any location in the world, could maybe explain some of this distribution, but I’m not sure.
In my previous article on fertility, I tried to understand the natality crisis among especially intelligent younger women as a result of their anxiety relating to the “life path” expected of their demographic. I pointed out that historically humans got past (often justified) female anxiety through an irrational glorification of the male sexual instincts and of male sexual allure, as it is only this—in combination with significant financial or material incentives—that can overcome innate anxiety. This has been historically the foundation of fertility in traditional societies as well. The role of religion here is precisely this: that is, historically religion didn’t function as “restraint” on sexuality except in the rare cases of ascetics, mystics, and priests in times of ritual, or other religious elites…but it acted in the average case precisely as a male-glorification and sexual-intensification amplifier for women. I didn’t make my proposal in any serious expectation it would be adopted (though I think it would work) but to show the poverty of the current-day debate on natality, its faulty assumptions, and to demonstrate also the very absurd “solutions” proposed by others.
It turns out however, that America does have its own semi-subterranean male-glorification “phallic cult.” As to whether it works, please refer to the numbers in this paper: it works to the extent that, in a condition of overall fertility decline for all groups, young black males, even when demographically a super-minority and even when a good number of them are at times in jail during child-producing years, punch at orders of magnitude way above their numbers, achieving significant penetration of other groups’ female fertility. This is to the point where some cases and locations resemble colonial-transformation asymmetric breeding; while for others, especially white Hispanics, it represents something like post-conquest analogy situation in the numbers, with likely demographic transformation within a few generations.
This is a much-filtered and somewhat parodic proof of concept of the phenomenon in my first fertility article: that natality numbers are significantly affected by the sexual presence or image of the target males. Natality numbers follow on the glamorization of male potency, as haphazardly and inconsistently as this is being demonstrated in postmodern America.
I only add in closing that this could be replicated for males of other groups, if they were allowed freedom. Unlike some others I don’t claim that the image of black males is entirely a media invention or “fetishization”; it has plausibility because it’s based partly in fact. But there quite a few other groups who have similar or higher numbers of impressive males that could also provide the factual ground for a similar amplification. In this remember that the numbers described here are being propagated by a small minority of black males. And especially when it comes to the more “charged” question of any sexual-behavior shifts among the broader population, I would estimate that it is the “top” 5-10% at most of blacks driving that, if even so. If this phenomenon as I describe here is happening, it doesn’t do to deny it, ignore it, not talk about it, or to blame women for their choices or insist they behave or must behave in a more “moral” or “loyal” way (no convincing reasons are ever given for this). Or to pretend it is entirely a “psychological operation.” But conversely, transsexual youth also have generated recently a “cool” subculture that is quite attractive to other youth and is able to generate new forms, though this is unknown to the right and might be denounced as demonic (it is terribly misunderstood by conservatives who imagine the transsexual thing is merely top-down directed by teachers or authorities). The reason they have been able to do this is just that: they have been allowed to secede and to some extent “rebel” without a boot coming on their neck. This isn’t true for most other groups though.
I leave it for others younger to document the facts of life presently in e.g. American high schools and colleges. It is basically illegal for a white 17 year old to knock up his girlfriend—he will get expelled. Ditto, completely racially-selected application of Title VII, Title IX and many other rules, often illegally made-up by administrators, which target white male youth and make, e.g., approaching a girl basically forbidden in many contexts. There is a simultaneous cleansing from elite paths and institutions of intelligent white males who display any traditionally manly attitudes or behavior. This is often most viciously enforced by female religious and social conservatives in these settings. The Trump era has not put any stop to this but arguably intensified it.
I can’t emphasize enough that it is young white males in Red States or conservative America who come under some of the most severe legal and social pressures and restrictions. I think maybe people over 30 of whatever political persuasion are ignorant of the facts on this. This will be for others to document but what I am describing are e.g., 16 and 17 year olds who are given felony records for the smallest infractions, including speeding 15 miles over the limit, and whose lives are regularly delimited and ruined in ways that are hard for outsiders to imagine. The demographic of bossy evangelical conservative women represented by e.g., Erika Kirk who has now been elevated on the right beyond criticism, and their craven orbiter husband-males, are some of the most vicious enforcers of restrictions on life and culture in America…and I say without apology that it is conservative America that is squeezing out the life of its young men as much as liberal America is, in a different but as noxious a way as the Tiger Mom culture of East Asians is utterly destroying that group.
It is worth it to consider then why and how the image of males of other groups has degraded, and to what extent that is or isn’t based in fact, and what types of cultural or legal shifts could resolve that. Not that I’m saying, again, that such shifts could be in any way engineered or centrally-produced: nor can this be any artificial or self-conscious response. Whatever such “amplification” arises will happen organically as a result of a substantial shift in the way of life of other male groups, at scale, or rather their ability to generate attractive countercultures. But not shackling youth, taking the boot off the neck of male youth, lessening the consequences for “rebellion” or more broadly, for life itself, is really the only political or legal thing that could allow for genuine countercultures to flourish.
revealing your anxiety about sexual competition is the most consistent way to cripple your “sexual market value”, and unfortunately you can take others down with you, others of your race, or of your more specific associations
RW males really are more motivated by sexual anxiety than average, and imo the kernel of truth of RW thought (as opposed to the web of RW neuroses) doesn’t actually have any widespread appeal, why would it? The truth is not flattering to the great mass of people of any race
the superior man will never find a “faction” that suits his needs, he will have to thread a needle and make use of both sides, opportunistically using their support when possible, and using them as foils to be contrasted with at other times
anybody who has hope for themselves, their friends, or their children, of becoming superior men wielding power and freedom suitable to their quality, must encourage them to maximize their athletic ability, their financial ability, and their knowledge, and minimize their contact with the swirling vortex of retard ideologies
Had a hard time reading through most of it and will finish all parts (Gen Z cooked attention span), but your last point about speeding tickets and White males in red-state conservative areas being under the most restriction, and under the yoke of Boomer conservatism, is probably the best representation I've come across. As well as understanding that we are shut out of career paths and hate corporate life to a point where the more dignified ones will not even enter that false 'arena' of boomers, simps, and middle-managers.
The fixation, or glorification, of blacks for committing violent crime being a misstep among 'based' types is definitely something that the more intelligent among us have figured out because as you point out, it really only gives them advantages.
Equating violence with blacks is also incorrect and is also an artificial arena. Thousands of whites die in the mud and trenches in Ukraine for the 3rd time in the past century. We are no strangers to violence. Our violence functions and organizes differently and for different reasons, typically confined to being at the service of governments, which is an issue because these governments are all incapable and not out for our interests. ICE received overwhelming applications when we still believed in Trump, but it is too politically correct. A race-war gestapo that brings demographics back to pre-1965 would fit my tastes.
Hopefully whites become enamored with and seduced by our capacity for violence again, in a response to the average age of politicians getting up to 80, while we are choked out of making a living, reduced to wageslaves. Funny that speeding tickets were mentioned, you seem to know what exactly makes us tick because you've spent time understanding us, and are one of us. $300 ticket in a rural red-state speed trap town, when you are already broke and unsuccessful, a vagrant of this country which should be your birthright. Being handed to you by an obese sad excuse of humanity, was probably enough in that instant to make me no longer want to put in effort to be part of this system. The seed might have taken root and is watered by memories of covid mammies and all others that mind is too tired now to unearth.