Allow me to make the unpopular case for preventing Iran from going nuclear.
Your point about Iran being a rational actor which probably doesn't want to self-immolate by engaging in an apocalyptic exchange is valid, however, any country gaining nuclear weapons increases the chance of a bomb going off, accidentally or intentionally.
We have had multiple close calls during the cold war, as you presumably know.
The chances are particularly increased, when the nations with nuclear weapons are in a tense stand-off, always being at the ready to launch in case the other side does.
Also, I think it's quite reasonable to fear more a nuclear armed regime if its infrastructure is rickety, and it's leaders rather erratic and zealous even if not suicidal.
A nuclear armed Iran would also put pressure on it's other rivals beside Israel to develop it's own nukes, to prevent being pressured by Iran. Saudi-Arabia and Turkey may be tempted to pursue their own nukes, especially if the US withdraws from the region.
Israel is a very small country so obviously a nuclear Iran is an existential threat to them. Add to the problem of Israeli's lack of strategic depth the strong Jewish diaspora and even one blast would likely end the state, though not the nation, of Israel. Seems perfectly logical to me that the Israelis will never allow a nuclear Iran.
The problem for the Israelis is for the US a nuclear Iran is very far down the list of threats. Even Iran with ICBMs aimed at major US cities would still only be maybe the 3rd biggest threat to the country. Immigration and the Democratic party are far more dangerous than any foreign adversary, and have to be dealt with first before we think about foreign adventures.
If the Israelis want the help of the US then they should urge their powerful diaspora to help destroy the Democrats and speed up deportations. I know Israel has advanced bio-tech, maybe they could help by cloning Stephen Miller to create an army of zealot ICE agents? Something for Bibi to think about.
The Israelis will never allow a nuclear Iran? And what will they do? Have the Sayeret Matkal drill 100 meters into granite to reach the bunkers? Would Israeli nukes even collapse the bunkers?
Ashekanzim have 2.2x higher rate of genetically inherited disease than Pakistani population. 1/3 are born with a disability. Talk about that high Ashekanzim IQ that votes blue 92% of the time. Your telling me people born with genetic disease 1/3 of the time have the politics of black single moms?
Trump doesn’t want the mess of the Mideast or any country but America, his focus is on rebuilding America. He however does want to close this last major bleeding sore, more for his Arab investors in building in America than Israel, or some lobby that not so secretly despises him -
I mean BTW the GOP. Which may not be likely to pass his Big Beautiful Bribe to Congress if they don’t get satisfaction for their donors. Speaking of US constituents, the people named Ackmann and Horowitz, as in Andreessen seem to have recently become fond of Trump, and alarmed over Israel.
Frankly given Iran’s recent actions in the neighborhood with its proxies a final closing of the Iranian account is in order. North Korea can keep its nukes because North Korea isn’t an expansionist, adventurous power using various hirelings to expand Juche over Asia.
Iran despite the irrational overreach IS. Or was.
With regard to Israel You’re ignoring the last 4 decades of Iranian policy, and the last decade of supporting HAMAS, the Houthis and being the Founding Partner of Hizbollah. Respectively Palestine, Yemen and Lebanon, countries Iran also has no borders with… nor is there a historical record of animus between Persia and Israel, quite the opposite.
Israel is being completely rational. Iran wasn’t.
But you know all that.
It just seems to not be in the context of this article, which is discussing tenured gerontocrats, a subject never out of view in Academe’s Groves.
Perhaps the world doesn’t match the campus.
On the subject of the American identity, we never lost our identity, the faculty room where some people’s concept of American identity seems to have formed left us, for a Global Chimera.
The closing of the 20th century romantic period may come in Iran, or Kiev, but it comes now for the Ivies, who’ve picked the wrong side. They forgot what country they lived in, how could the Haunts of Rawls communicate an American identity they threw away decades ago?
But we never forgot.
Do consider a road trip, as John Bagot Glubb noted in his travels- “America is a vast land full of many mysteries.”
Fuck off shill, Trump explicitly told the Israelis that they will start winning again because they will have the president again. He loves Israel and doesn't give a shit about some "Arab investors" compared to the billions from the Adelsons and their ilk.
The only reason to care about if Iran has nukes is if you're a Jew yourself, so you've pretty handily exposed yourself.
I don’t have Trust nor care about any plan but rebuilding America, really.
I would be disappointed if we had kept the same old alliances with the rent paid in Treasuries we pay $1.2T annual interest on , instead Trump has them paying by building factories and investing in America. It turn out we were fighting for factories, as a Vet from the Rust Belt THAT validates sacrifice.
If to get these investments we have to make the Gulf Arabs happy by ending Iranian mischief… the Gulf Arabs being the real $ Mideast lobby … that’s better than before. Of course the Israelis get the blame (from people who dislike their own Jews).
Well being liked isn’t important. Survival and prosperity are important.
My issue is this: Russia has been in demographic decline for decades. Old people abound there too. One good argument for staying the hell away from the current war in Ukraine that I have always understood and empathized with is “if the West goes too far we are risking WWIII.” I always doubted that Putin would ever do anything like that (he is a rational actor too - although I’m sure there are hard liners queued up behind him - it seems we are all plagued with hard liners…) but the risk, however remote, is always there. Why would we want that same situation with a state like Iran? It has been, since 1979, infinitely more aggressive (through proxies, but still) in its foreign policy than Russia has been since the demise of the USSR. For that matter, even the nuclear-armed state of N. Korea is not that much of a concern given its extreme isolationism. Iran may be sclerotic but it is not, nor ever has been, isolationist. If you thought N. Korea having a nuclear temper tantrum every so often because Rocket Man is running low on his single malts was bad, strap in for the fun that will be had when the world gets to dance to the soothing strains of the Shia Bomb. Again, they don’t have to ever actually use it…but their great power pretensions will certainly embolden them and all their lovely and mostly peaceful proxies make no mistake. Already the Houthis have their finger on the flow of global trade and oil and that’s without being backed by a nuclear power. (I want to remind everyone that the Iranian proxies (edit) even attacked Mecca at one point.)
first thing I've read from you, was entertaining, pleasantly surprised with the isolationist ideology as well, from what I read on Twitter (where you've had me blocked for years) I was expecting naked shilling for Israel
What folly, then, to consider yourself too principled to conquer the world. Be gone from my sight, you pathetic and disgusting creature. You who would reject the mantle of imperium, the opportunity that our forefathers bled for, we shall tread upon you, for that is what you display as having desired with your actions, or perhaps more appropriately, your inactions.
I’m astounded how many commenters here evidently uncritically accept Israel’s propaganda about Iran “going nuclear” and thereby being an “existential threat.” Sounds like the Republicans in 2014. What’s next, Trump must be “Churchillian” and not “appease” the Ayatollah, “the next Hitler”? Iran hasn’t had a nuclear-weapons program for decades, and its allies (states and non-state proxies) have either abandoned it or been destroyed. Even if the remnants of the Iranian theocracy were clinging to a nuke in their mountain fastness, what could they possibly do with such a weapon in their condition? Iran is like a raccoon which was nearly mauled to death by a dog after scratching its nose, but which managed to escape and has now been “treed” by that dog. Israel is like that dog if it whined to its master to kill the dying raccoon by burning down the tree.
If it’s really how you say then maybe they should figure it out. We are the strong and we shall tread where we may. They should learn to respect that. You are having your thinking done for you by hippies who could never touch their toes. Stand in the sun and embrace your destiny, son of empire.
Yes, I should let “the strong,” like Sean Hannity, Jesse Waters, and Brian Kilmeade on FOX News, whose audience’s average age is above life expectancy and whose commercials are all for erectile-dysfunction meds and geriatric diapers, determine where we may tread, not “hippies.” As a “son of empire” I must make the Middle East safe for Israel, while my homeland is overrun by refugees from the very places we’ve warred upon for Israel. If that’s my destiny, I call that flying too close to the sun.
More likely than not you’re a bot programmed to argue in favor of regime change in language that sounds vaguely “based” in lieu of the cloying neocon appeals to human rights. Malice is a far more charitable assumption than stupidity in this case.
that’s why I’m glad that people like you are too incompetent to ever seize power, you’d be too afraid to accidentally have ends that coincide with people you’re afraid of looking like. Do you really think we care about the desires of Israel? Of course not. Israel is a convenient excuse to project in the Middle East. Israel is a convenient excuse to maintain our military industrial complex. They are a convenient, excuse to destabilize a region by pissing off people, and then getting paid trillions of dollars to solve the problem. Did you forget about all the investment money Trump secured from
The saudis alone? You’re the same kind of person that would freak out about the recent deal with China because 500000 Chinese students can come in to our universities. I’ve explained it many times where this is not actually a problem, but furthermore, even if every reason I have a enumerated in the past fell through, tell me why our empire should embrace the inferior among us? If you are so vile and wretched that you could not stop watching porn or race mixing on your own, why should the Empire come and give you the fruits of the world? Lift yourself up you disgusting freak, you do not deserve the honor of bearing the mantle
First of all, regardless of whatever esoteric politics exist in your own mind, the reason that we're allied with Israel is because of the lobbying of Zionist Jews and Christian Zionists, both of whom are devoted to serving the desires of Israel.
Second, of all, even if Israel were just a pretense to project power in the Middle East, why would that be in our interest? Because it gains trillions of dollars for the military-industrial complex? What does that military-industrial complex do for America or the West? It certainly doesn't defend us at home. What do you think the military-industrial complex is, some sort of warrior caste, like the Junkers or the Samurai?
Thirdly, not wanting to be Israel's golem against Iran means that I'm…watching porn and race mixing…? Methinks there's some projecting on your part, and lemme tell you, it ain't "power."
Nigga you can do two things at once. The reason why you and yours will never prosper is because you require persecution to function, you want to pull our race down to the level of the Chinese, using petty racial grudges as a reason to shrug off the glory of the world. Oh how great our race is, that it is full of overgrown children who can’t stop jacking off, guess we’re not going to space guys! Sorry! What a fucking dork. “Bro it’s actually BAD to decimate sand people” as if, you knuckle dragging pussy
Well, given how ineptly your comment is formatted, I can see that you’re not a bot, just some spastic schizo whose special-snowflake ideology is “PNAC but make it sound like BAP.” Who knew a human could fail the Turing test?
What does getting ensnared in another in another petty sectarian turf war in Middle East have to do with going to space? If anything, the more our faces are down in the sand, the less likely we are to look up at the stars. Oh wait, I forgot, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq ushered in a renaissance of the American Century, a veritable Pax Americana!
How does resisting “the insidious wiles of foreign influence” and maintaining the Monroe Doctrine (i.e. America as continental hegemon) pull us down to the level of the Chinese? I say that we embrace our destiny as a great continental empire and leave the Jews and the Muslims alone to fight amongst themselves. I want our Knights of the Golden Circle fighting here, making us great again, not spilling their sweat and blood in a faraway wasteland. The sole resource that region has that makes it of any interest to us is oil, but we have oil of our own, and moreover, we're developing alternatives which will return that region to being a global backwater.
I get that staying out of the Middle East is a good impulse, that it's a bad idea to just involve yourself willy-nilly. But the comparison between Israel and Iran just doesn't pass the sniff test. Iran genuinely is the sclerotic, geriatric old-man society that is autocratic until there's any serious pushback. Israel is not the same however. Israel's birthrate is conspicuously higher than every other Westernized nation in the world, and an economy that is unimpeded by terrorism and war.
On the point of Iran's desire to possess nuclear weapons, that's sound. The "Supreme Leader" just wants to wake up tomorrow intact and nuclear weapons are a good deterrent. But unlike other nations with nuclear weapons, Iran has shown wildly poor discernment with its proxies, and with October 7th, the tail has been wagging the dog. In what universe was it in Iran's interest to waste their long-prized Hezbollah on Hamas's death wish? And yet, Hezbollah now is totally decapitated. Their leadership is regrettably too stupid to have nuclear weapons.
Speaking of Hamas and Hezbollah, Iran and Israel are enemies because Iran funds Hamas and Hezbollah LMAO. Khomeini thought, just like leftist dorks, that Israel is a colony of the West and needs to be excised like a cancer. It's actually rather readable as Woke vs. Based shit. I think leaving this out of the analysis is too convenient, and if it were present, would make it harder to explain this struggle as some senile combat, instead of being a part of the general world cultural struggle which seems to engulf everything these days.
"On the other hand, the pretense that two aged countries like Iran and Israel are animated primarily by religious or moral considerations and such war passions is absurd."
Perhaps if by "religious or moral considerations" you mean it's some autistic Judaism vs. Islam thing you're right. But viewed as a war between the Western right to exist as post-imperial states without moral debts, and the non-Western right to dismantle and strip post-imperial nations for parts, Iran and Israel are pretty clearly on one side or the other. I think we should be a more willing to support the party that's on our side of this divide.
The country with the "*Ethnicity* Immigrant Aid Society" active in our own countries is the one we should oppose actually. It's not the Iranians driving mass immigration to the West for their own expansive ambitions.
Hint: that's not the "Persian Immigrant Aid Society".
Whenever people complain about Jews, they conflate all of them into one big pile. It'd be like if I whined about Americans all being SJWs, or liking big trucks. Some Jews want to blow up Palestinians before they get blown up by them, and some of them are drama students who like writing cuckold porn for Broadway and think the best way to stop Holocaust 2.0 is Universalist Love for the Muslim Brotherhood. The two of them would hate each more than you can imagine, just like how you hate Naomi in HR (she/they) who would die for Mexicans but thinks you're an offputting vaguely racist "cishetguy".
This whole blowup could have easily been avoided if Drumpf simply denoonced Bibi as a loser (who refused to back him in 2020), Israel would have snap elections resulting in literally anyone else in charge. The IDF generals & Mossad chiefs were unanimously against this dumb adventure.
Because many of them quite literally quit to lead the main political opposition to Bibi, literally every Israeli in the country knows this. The “pro-Israel” people abroad really don’t know the first thing about the country and in the long run are doing it probably irretrievable harm.
Mmmm I don't live in Israel and only know what I read in the English language Israeli papers, but my frens in Israel seem to think they're mostly on the same page of late.
I guess the “Bronze Age Mindset” refers to jacked dudes sticking their cocks between each others’ thighs and not, as the Israelis are doing, killing your enemies. Keep poasting those shirtless pics though! That shows you are man.
Every Friday the Iranian Islamist hordes chant “Death to America!” in their godless shrines. The mullahs murdered US Marines in Lebanon in the 1980s. They took Americans hostage, and they attempted to kill President Trump. The enemy gets a vote, and the Iranian regime constantly proclaims that they hate America. If they acquired nuclear weapons they would 100% use them to exert leverage and decrease US power and security.
Sad that the so-called Dissident Right is, just like the demented left, unable to interpret events outside their simplistic ideological box. Less fapping and jacking and more read book!
Yeah actually they are, when we negotiate trillions in investment to free ourselves from the problems that globalization brings from nations who want us to deal with Iran, they are our problem. I know you guys probably don’t keep up with literally anything outside of your bubble, but this actually IS in America’s best interest, sorry chud
Get new insult. Very disappointing the youth today so unoriginal recycling most lame content.
Back in the day, the SS high command had to issue a list of approved vulgarities for drill sergeant’s to use while training foreign troops on their own side! In other words, the original Nazis had style and intellect, and their hatred was inspired.
You just make fart sounds and grunt, like Congolese monkey. Are you Congolese monkey? Stand up straight, monkey! Have pride, monkey! Get thesaurus, monkey! Very embarrass.
Yes, just let them block the Straits of Hormuz and sink tankers. Look, you want to advance the idea of disassembling modern technological civilization, that’s fine with me, I would be in favor of that. But you’re going to have to come up with a plan.
This hits on something most “geopolitical” takes miss: states aren’t rogue teenagers—they’re aging systems running self-preservation code. Iran’s pursuit of a bomb is risk-aversion, not martyrdom. The real question isn’t moral panic over who might go nuclear; it’s why the U.S. keeps volunteering to play global hall monitor when every intervention since 2003 has proved the classroom can’t be managed.
If deterrence logic, sclerotic leadership, and regional rivalry explain the mess, then the only rational U.S. move is non-interference—because stepping in doesn’t neutralize risk, it multiplies variables we can’t control. Your piece names that inconvenient math: old men guarding their regimes will always act predictably conservative, but outsiders chasing moral clarity create chaos they can’t cash.
In short: call the bluff, skip the crusade, and let exhausted empires age out on their own dime.
Allow me to make the unpopular case for preventing Iran from going nuclear.
Your point about Iran being a rational actor which probably doesn't want to self-immolate by engaging in an apocalyptic exchange is valid, however, any country gaining nuclear weapons increases the chance of a bomb going off, accidentally or intentionally.
We have had multiple close calls during the cold war, as you presumably know.
The chances are particularly increased, when the nations with nuclear weapons are in a tense stand-off, always being at the ready to launch in case the other side does.
Also, I think it's quite reasonable to fear more a nuclear armed regime if its infrastructure is rickety, and it's leaders rather erratic and zealous even if not suicidal.
A nuclear armed Iran would also put pressure on it's other rivals beside Israel to develop it's own nukes, to prevent being pressured by Iran. Saudi-Arabia and Turkey may be tempted to pursue their own nukes, especially if the US withdraws from the region.
Israel is a very small country so obviously a nuclear Iran is an existential threat to them. Add to the problem of Israeli's lack of strategic depth the strong Jewish diaspora and even one blast would likely end the state, though not the nation, of Israel. Seems perfectly logical to me that the Israelis will never allow a nuclear Iran.
The problem for the Israelis is for the US a nuclear Iran is very far down the list of threats. Even Iran with ICBMs aimed at major US cities would still only be maybe the 3rd biggest threat to the country. Immigration and the Democratic party are far more dangerous than any foreign adversary, and have to be dealt with first before we think about foreign adventures.
If the Israelis want the help of the US then they should urge their powerful diaspora to help destroy the Democrats and speed up deportations. I know Israel has advanced bio-tech, maybe they could help by cloning Stephen Miller to create an army of zealot ICE agents? Something for Bibi to think about.
The Israelis will never allow a nuclear Iran? And what will they do? Have the Sayeret Matkal drill 100 meters into granite to reach the bunkers? Would Israeli nukes even collapse the bunkers?
"leaders rather erratic and zealous"
This describes Israel and America as well, perhaps more so.
myslel jsem ze jsem jedinej ceskej bapista haha
Tak bych se nenazval, ale za přečtení mi stojí.
No, definitely not more so.
But that is an argument against those countries having nukes, not for allowing Iran to also acquire them.
Allowing? You talk like a father chastizing an unruly child. Who is going to de-nuke a nuclear power?
obsessing over nuclear proliferation reeks of safetyism.
Pakistan/India: acknowledged by everyone to be the most likely hotspot for a nuclear exchange to actually take place.
Ashekanzim have 2.2x higher rate of genetically inherited disease than Pakistani population. 1/3 are born with a disability. Talk about that high Ashekanzim IQ that votes blue 92% of the time. Your telling me people born with genetic disease 1/3 of the time have the politics of black single moms?
Trump doesn’t want the mess of the Mideast or any country but America, his focus is on rebuilding America. He however does want to close this last major bleeding sore, more for his Arab investors in building in America than Israel, or some lobby that not so secretly despises him -
I mean BTW the GOP. Which may not be likely to pass his Big Beautiful Bribe to Congress if they don’t get satisfaction for their donors. Speaking of US constituents, the people named Ackmann and Horowitz, as in Andreessen seem to have recently become fond of Trump, and alarmed over Israel.
Frankly given Iran’s recent actions in the neighborhood with its proxies a final closing of the Iranian account is in order. North Korea can keep its nukes because North Korea isn’t an expansionist, adventurous power using various hirelings to expand Juche over Asia.
Iran despite the irrational overreach IS. Or was.
With regard to Israel You’re ignoring the last 4 decades of Iranian policy, and the last decade of supporting HAMAS, the Houthis and being the Founding Partner of Hizbollah. Respectively Palestine, Yemen and Lebanon, countries Iran also has no borders with… nor is there a historical record of animus between Persia and Israel, quite the opposite.
Israel is being completely rational. Iran wasn’t.
But you know all that.
It just seems to not be in the context of this article, which is discussing tenured gerontocrats, a subject never out of view in Academe’s Groves.
Perhaps the world doesn’t match the campus.
On the subject of the American identity, we never lost our identity, the faculty room where some people’s concept of American identity seems to have formed left us, for a Global Chimera.
The closing of the 20th century romantic period may come in Iran, or Kiev, but it comes now for the Ivies, who’ve picked the wrong side. They forgot what country they lived in, how could the Haunts of Rawls communicate an American identity they threw away decades ago?
But we never forgot.
Do consider a road trip, as John Bagot Glubb noted in his travels- “America is a vast land full of many mysteries.”
Less mysterious for we Americans.
Do come and discover us.
The American Revolution never ends.
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Fuck off shill, Trump explicitly told the Israelis that they will start winning again because they will have the president again. He loves Israel and doesn't give a shit about some "Arab investors" compared to the billions from the Adelsons and their ilk.
The only reason to care about if Iran has nukes is if you're a Jew yourself, so you've pretty handily exposed yourself.
Why thank you, I’m pushing 60 and never knew I was Joosiszh.
Do I got a discount somewhere?
Good take, the memory of these people is so short. Trust the plan.
I don’t have Trust nor care about any plan but rebuilding America, really.
I would be disappointed if we had kept the same old alliances with the rent paid in Treasuries we pay $1.2T annual interest on , instead Trump has them paying by building factories and investing in America. It turn out we were fighting for factories, as a Vet from the Rust Belt THAT validates sacrifice.
If to get these investments we have to make the Gulf Arabs happy by ending Iranian mischief… the Gulf Arabs being the real $ Mideast lobby … that’s better than before. Of course the Israelis get the blame (from people who dislike their own Jews).
Well being liked isn’t important. Survival and prosperity are important.
My issue is this: Russia has been in demographic decline for decades. Old people abound there too. One good argument for staying the hell away from the current war in Ukraine that I have always understood and empathized with is “if the West goes too far we are risking WWIII.” I always doubted that Putin would ever do anything like that (he is a rational actor too - although I’m sure there are hard liners queued up behind him - it seems we are all plagued with hard liners…) but the risk, however remote, is always there. Why would we want that same situation with a state like Iran? It has been, since 1979, infinitely more aggressive (through proxies, but still) in its foreign policy than Russia has been since the demise of the USSR. For that matter, even the nuclear-armed state of N. Korea is not that much of a concern given its extreme isolationism. Iran may be sclerotic but it is not, nor ever has been, isolationist. If you thought N. Korea having a nuclear temper tantrum every so often because Rocket Man is running low on his single malts was bad, strap in for the fun that will be had when the world gets to dance to the soothing strains of the Shia Bomb. Again, they don’t have to ever actually use it…but their great power pretensions will certainly embolden them and all their lovely and mostly peaceful proxies make no mistake. Already the Houthis have their finger on the flow of global trade and oil and that’s without being backed by a nuclear power. (I want to remind everyone that the Iranian proxies (edit) even attacked Mecca at one point.)
first thing I've read from you, was entertaining, pleasantly surprised with the isolationist ideology as well, from what I read on Twitter (where you've had me blocked for years) I was expecting naked shilling for Israel
will check out BAM
Stfu you kiss ass. We all remember you posting dox information mere months ago.
episode 50 of Caribbean Rhythms “Heraclitus Man of Power” maybe you listen to that first before you read Bronze Age mindset Chris
Isolationism is a symptom of people not of a logistician’s mind concerning themselves with the ordering of everything.
What folly, then, to consider yourself too principled to conquer the world. Be gone from my sight, you pathetic and disgusting creature. You who would reject the mantle of imperium, the opportunity that our forefathers bled for, we shall tread upon you, for that is what you display as having desired with your actions, or perhaps more appropriately, your inactions.
I’m astounded how many commenters here evidently uncritically accept Israel’s propaganda about Iran “going nuclear” and thereby being an “existential threat.” Sounds like the Republicans in 2014. What’s next, Trump must be “Churchillian” and not “appease” the Ayatollah, “the next Hitler”? Iran hasn’t had a nuclear-weapons program for decades, and its allies (states and non-state proxies) have either abandoned it or been destroyed. Even if the remnants of the Iranian theocracy were clinging to a nuke in their mountain fastness, what could they possibly do with such a weapon in their condition? Iran is like a raccoon which was nearly mauled to death by a dog after scratching its nose, but which managed to escape and has now been “treed” by that dog. Israel is like that dog if it whined to its master to kill the dying raccoon by burning down the tree.
If it’s really how you say then maybe they should figure it out. We are the strong and we shall tread where we may. They should learn to respect that. You are having your thinking done for you by hippies who could never touch their toes. Stand in the sun and embrace your destiny, son of empire.
Yes, I should let “the strong,” like Sean Hannity, Jesse Waters, and Brian Kilmeade on FOX News, whose audience’s average age is above life expectancy and whose commercials are all for erectile-dysfunction meds and geriatric diapers, determine where we may tread, not “hippies.” As a “son of empire” I must make the Middle East safe for Israel, while my homeland is overrun by refugees from the very places we’ve warred upon for Israel. If that’s my destiny, I call that flying too close to the sun.
More likely than not you’re a bot programmed to argue in favor of regime change in language that sounds vaguely “based” in lieu of the cloying neocon appeals to human rights. Malice is a far more charitable assumption than stupidity in this case.
that’s why I’m glad that people like you are too incompetent to ever seize power, you’d be too afraid to accidentally have ends that coincide with people you’re afraid of looking like. Do you really think we care about the desires of Israel? Of course not. Israel is a convenient excuse to project in the Middle East. Israel is a convenient excuse to maintain our military industrial complex. They are a convenient, excuse to destabilize a region by pissing off people, and then getting paid trillions of dollars to solve the problem. Did you forget about all the investment money Trump secured from
The saudis alone? You’re the same kind of person that would freak out about the recent deal with China because 500000 Chinese students can come in to our universities. I’ve explained it many times where this is not actually a problem, but furthermore, even if every reason I have a enumerated in the past fell through, tell me why our empire should embrace the inferior among us? If you are so vile and wretched that you could not stop watching porn or race mixing on your own, why should the Empire come and give you the fruits of the world? Lift yourself up you disgusting freak, you do not deserve the honor of bearing the mantle
First of all, regardless of whatever esoteric politics exist in your own mind, the reason that we're allied with Israel is because of the lobbying of Zionist Jews and Christian Zionists, both of whom are devoted to serving the desires of Israel.
Second, of all, even if Israel were just a pretense to project power in the Middle East, why would that be in our interest? Because it gains trillions of dollars for the military-industrial complex? What does that military-industrial complex do for America or the West? It certainly doesn't defend us at home. What do you think the military-industrial complex is, some sort of warrior caste, like the Junkers or the Samurai?
Thirdly, not wanting to be Israel's golem against Iran means that I'm…watching porn and race mixing…? Methinks there's some projecting on your part, and lemme tell you, it ain't "power."
Nigga you can do two things at once. The reason why you and yours will never prosper is because you require persecution to function, you want to pull our race down to the level of the Chinese, using petty racial grudges as a reason to shrug off the glory of the world. Oh how great our race is, that it is full of overgrown children who can’t stop jacking off, guess we’re not going to space guys! Sorry! What a fucking dork. “Bro it’s actually BAD to decimate sand people” as if, you knuckle dragging pussy
Well, given how ineptly your comment is formatted, I can see that you’re not a bot, just some spastic schizo whose special-snowflake ideology is “PNAC but make it sound like BAP.” Who knew a human could fail the Turing test?
What does getting ensnared in another in another petty sectarian turf war in Middle East have to do with going to space? If anything, the more our faces are down in the sand, the less likely we are to look up at the stars. Oh wait, I forgot, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq ushered in a renaissance of the American Century, a veritable Pax Americana!
How does resisting “the insidious wiles of foreign influence” and maintaining the Monroe Doctrine (i.e. America as continental hegemon) pull us down to the level of the Chinese? I say that we embrace our destiny as a great continental empire and leave the Jews and the Muslims alone to fight amongst themselves. I want our Knights of the Golden Circle fighting here, making us great again, not spilling their sweat and blood in a faraway wasteland. The sole resource that region has that makes it of any interest to us is oil, but we have oil of our own, and moreover, we're developing alternatives which will return that region to being a global backwater.
I get that staying out of the Middle East is a good impulse, that it's a bad idea to just involve yourself willy-nilly. But the comparison between Israel and Iran just doesn't pass the sniff test. Iran genuinely is the sclerotic, geriatric old-man society that is autocratic until there's any serious pushback. Israel is not the same however. Israel's birthrate is conspicuously higher than every other Westernized nation in the world, and an economy that is unimpeded by terrorism and war.
On the point of Iran's desire to possess nuclear weapons, that's sound. The "Supreme Leader" just wants to wake up tomorrow intact and nuclear weapons are a good deterrent. But unlike other nations with nuclear weapons, Iran has shown wildly poor discernment with its proxies, and with October 7th, the tail has been wagging the dog. In what universe was it in Iran's interest to waste their long-prized Hezbollah on Hamas's death wish? And yet, Hezbollah now is totally decapitated. Their leadership is regrettably too stupid to have nuclear weapons.
Speaking of Hamas and Hezbollah, Iran and Israel are enemies because Iran funds Hamas and Hezbollah LMAO. Khomeini thought, just like leftist dorks, that Israel is a colony of the West and needs to be excised like a cancer. It's actually rather readable as Woke vs. Based shit. I think leaving this out of the analysis is too convenient, and if it were present, would make it harder to explain this struggle as some senile combat, instead of being a part of the general world cultural struggle which seems to engulf everything these days.
"On the other hand, the pretense that two aged countries like Iran and Israel are animated primarily by religious or moral considerations and such war passions is absurd."
Perhaps if by "religious or moral considerations" you mean it's some autistic Judaism vs. Islam thing you're right. But viewed as a war between the Western right to exist as post-imperial states without moral debts, and the non-Western right to dismantle and strip post-imperial nations for parts, Iran and Israel are pretty clearly on one side or the other. I think we should be a more willing to support the party that's on our side of this divide.
The country with the "*Ethnicity* Immigrant Aid Society" active in our own countries is the one we should oppose actually. It's not the Iranians driving mass immigration to the West for their own expansive ambitions.
Hint: that's not the "Persian Immigrant Aid Society".
Whenever people complain about Jews, they conflate all of them into one big pile. It'd be like if I whined about Americans all being SJWs, or liking big trucks. Some Jews want to blow up Palestinians before they get blown up by them, and some of them are drama students who like writing cuckold porn for Broadway and think the best way to stop Holocaust 2.0 is Universalist Love for the Muslim Brotherhood. The two of them would hate each more than you can imagine, just like how you hate Naomi in HR (she/they) who would die for Mexicans but thinks you're an offputting vaguely racist "cishetguy".
ayo how do I play the audio i'm too high for dis shit rn up all night watchin them niggas bombin
This whole blowup could have easily been avoided if Drumpf simply denoonced Bibi as a loser (who refused to back him in 2020), Israel would have snap elections resulting in literally anyone else in charge. The IDF generals & Mossad chiefs were unanimously against this dumb adventure.
I agree, and on top of all that it would've been a hilarious reversal for Trump (or any American president) to handpick the leader of Israel.
>The IDF generals & Mossad chiefs were unanimously against this dumb adventure
Why do you think that?
Because many of them quite literally quit to lead the main political opposition to Bibi, literally every Israeli in the country knows this. The “pro-Israel” people abroad really don’t know the first thing about the country and in the long run are doing it probably irretrievable harm.
Mmmm I don't live in Israel and only know what I read in the English language Israeli papers, but my frens in Israel seem to think they're mostly on the same page of late.
I guess the “Bronze Age Mindset” refers to jacked dudes sticking their cocks between each others’ thighs and not, as the Israelis are doing, killing your enemies. Keep poasting those shirtless pics though! That shows you are man.
You didn’t read the article numbnuts. The whole point is that Iran isn’t OUR enemy.
Every Friday the Iranian Islamist hordes chant “Death to America!” in their godless shrines. The mullahs murdered US Marines in Lebanon in the 1980s. They took Americans hostage, and they attempted to kill President Trump. The enemy gets a vote, and the Iranian regime constantly proclaims that they hate America. If they acquired nuclear weapons they would 100% use them to exert leverage and decrease US power and security.
Sad that the so-called Dissident Right is, just like the demented left, unable to interpret events outside their simplistic ideological box. Less fapping and jacking and more read book!
define "US power and security"
Someone should tell the Iranians that, shouldn’t they?
"Death to America!"
Yeah actually they are, when we negotiate trillions in investment to free ourselves from the problems that globalization brings from nations who want us to deal with Iran, they are our problem. I know you guys probably don’t keep up with literally anything outside of your bubble, but this actually IS in America’s best interest, sorry chud
You are right BAP is a faggot. Now die in Iranian bomb fire Jew subhuman.
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Not denying you are a filthy perverted subhuman Jew are you?
Get new insult. Very disappointing the youth today so unoriginal recycling most lame content.
Back in the day, the SS high command had to issue a list of approved vulgarities for drill sergeant’s to use while training foreign troops on their own side! In other words, the original Nazis had style and intellect, and their hatred was inspired.
You just make fart sounds and grunt, like Congolese monkey. Are you Congolese monkey? Stand up straight, monkey! Have pride, monkey! Get thesaurus, monkey! Very embarrass.
I’m 59 and own my own home outright. You were saying?
Familiarize yourself with the Iraq invasion k:d ratio
Couldn't have titled this article any better imo
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It ends the war and becomes a friend or it gets the tungsten powder again. (Frend)
Yes, just let them block the Straits of Hormuz and sink tankers. Look, you want to advance the idea of disassembling modern technological civilization, that’s fine with me, I would be in favor of that. But you’re going to have to come up with a plan.
A bunch of 70 year old men are going to start a war for 20 year olds to fight, aren’t they?
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honestly BAP needs to put his article behind the paywall to keep the retards out.
This hits on something most “geopolitical” takes miss: states aren’t rogue teenagers—they’re aging systems running self-preservation code. Iran’s pursuit of a bomb is risk-aversion, not martyrdom. The real question isn’t moral panic over who might go nuclear; it’s why the U.S. keeps volunteering to play global hall monitor when every intervention since 2003 has proved the classroom can’t be managed.
If deterrence logic, sclerotic leadership, and regional rivalry explain the mess, then the only rational U.S. move is non-interference—because stepping in doesn’t neutralize risk, it multiplies variables we can’t control. Your piece names that inconvenient math: old men guarding their regimes will always act predictably conservative, but outsiders chasing moral clarity create chaos they can’t cash.
In short: call the bluff, skip the crusade, and let exhausted empires age out on their own dime.