I’m reminded when Sam Hyde was asked about Israel-Gaza and his response was something like “it’s not your problem, for once it is not your problem, I’ve got a Hot Pocket in the microwave” 😂
My go-to line when this has come up over the past year has been “you can’t make me have an opinion on Israel.” Usually good for 80% or so of the group to have a thankful laugh and move the conversation along to less annoying subjects. My impression is also of widespread apathy from the middle of the electorate and dwelling on it from any perspective other than the noninterventionist one — which probably isn’t happening anytime soon — can probably only hurt the right.
I don’t think taking out Iran’s nukes by air was “a symbolic disrespect to Trump’s original supporters.” (Even decapitating the regime, which might happen shortly, would be okay.) Trump is America First, and Iran is a sworn and dangerous enemy of the US. They’re a major supporter of terror against us. We’re the “Great Satan,” remember? The fact that the nuke strike also helped Israel was not a cause, but more of a bonus.
Same with Maduro. Venezuela was a hub for anti-American influence: China, Antifa, and lots more. It was a major lifeline for Cuba, the Western hemisphere hub of anti-Americanism since Castro.
MAGA does not want to get into lengthy wars, boots on the ground, or fruitless democracy-building exercises like Iraq or Afghanistan. MAGA is fine with surgical actions that take out major foreign enemies.
A lot of people see the shock and awe and forget thus far we’ve gone home immediately after. There is obviously the chance we fuck up and it turns into a morass, but credit to Trump it hasn’t happened yet.
If Hazony is opposed to the West, I really fear what happens after Bibi. Seems like the Israeli right will go in for Ben Gvir or similar chest-thumping Mizrahism. Anyway, good articool, I hope it's not too late to land with the Tucker Carlsons of the world who have blundered hardest over this stuff.
To play devil's advocate, the strongest current barrier to American and Western withdrawal from the Middle East is the Zionist lobby. By contrast, the pro-Palestine people (who I agree are very cringe and potentially dangerous) have close to 0 institutionalized power or control over the levers of government, and (for now) have a stronger anti-interventionist streak. They are also more popular than the Zionists with Zoomers. Overall, it seems more productive to attack Zionism, Israel, and Philosemitism than to attack the pro-Palestine crowd. But I don't know, i humble genetix sperg.
The ONLY place in the world where white-ish young men, some of them of high IQ, are forming what could be described as "mannerbund" (in fagtalk) and engaging in direct action to push their brown-ish enemies off the land is Israel (Yehuda and the Shomron.)
The ONLY place in the world where the white-ish natives, many of them of high IQ, are willing to fight their enemies in the ranks of an army, blow up their houses, hear the ululations of their women, is Israel (btw, there was quite a bit of close combat during the first phase of the war, but then Hamas understood that this generally only went one way and resorted to IEDs and the occasional small raid.)
The ONLY place in the world where white-ish young people are having lots of babies and raising them to have lots of babies themselves is Israel.
Your response to this tremendous development is to ignore it and condemn Bari Weiss and Ben Shapiro, who just represent an alternative form of yeastlife to your gym-and-studio apartment-based "vitalism."
I have almost never read an article I agree 100% with. You have accomplished that. You touched on literally all of my objections to both the pro-Israel right and anti-israel right.
Very interesting article, I think you miss the central point of the discussion:
1) A lasting solution for the Palestinian cause would automatically pre-empt discussions/the reflex for"forever war" in the Middle East and would therefore make US military disengagement from the region much more possible and likely.
My position has been the Palestinian thing is bad because there is a possibility the United States gets pulled into another stupid middle eastern war because Israel is an American “ally”. The right should not give a shit about either people, but should be genuinely concerned about impacts to our own country caused by Israeli belligerence.
They are a loose cannon and a massive destabilizing force in the region. Its not just Iran at this point, the list of countries they’ve bombed in the last few years is approaching double digits. The whole Iran revolt reeks of mossad and if it had succeeded then the US would’ve been impacted by a shaken oil market. The economy is global and middle eastern instability comes back to burn us.
Jewish action creating real harm to our lives is what I argue to be the correct path forwards.
An esoteric reading: “the American postwar order’s carveout for Israel is real but limited. Thus the noble dream of Jabotinsky et al decayed into bearded Semites screaming in pee stained robes. If America turns away completely, Israel’s internal hard right can seize power finally. This could make Israel based and NS again, saving the country, and preventing its slow decline.* Otherwise, said decline culminates in Israelis migrating to the West.”
Could be reduced to a slogan like “ignore Israel to save Israel” -> “save israel because otherwise they’ll move here”
Critics could argue that a West capable of allowing Israel’s destruction would be equally capable of turning away their emigrants, but this is speculation—the campus left wouldn’t turn away Israelis as they don’t believe in borders, and there is no other meaningful faction here that would allow said destruction.
Excellent article as always
*and also be “the most antisemitic act ever conceived”?
"The matters of Israel, Palestine and associated concepts like “antisemitism” seem to be far more important for the so-called “elite” than for the American people."
Thats because MOST american people, have to get TRICKED into all this. Through jew control over the false government and media. The american people, are NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW, that the jew is calling all the shots behind this.
Oct 7th was a declaration of war between Pro-China Israelis against Anti-China Israelis from my orignal belief and from my long term analysis. However, I had the two factions mixed up. It appears the Pro-China ones have been supporting Trump until recently. Until after he eliminated China's oil dealer
I’m reminded when Sam Hyde was asked about Israel-Gaza and his response was something like “it’s not your problem, for once it is not your problem, I’ve got a Hot Pocket in the microwave” 😂
nd the NJF interview? wb the chance encounter at the Mitzvah Bus? and 'antisemitism'? the wheat grain? semolina? still views on a topic never change
My go-to line when this has come up over the past year has been “you can’t make me have an opinion on Israel.” Usually good for 80% or so of the group to have a thankful laugh and move the conversation along to less annoying subjects. My impression is also of widespread apathy from the middle of the electorate and dwelling on it from any perspective other than the noninterventionist one — which probably isn’t happening anytime soon — can probably only hurt the right.
I don’t think taking out Iran’s nukes by air was “a symbolic disrespect to Trump’s original supporters.” (Even decapitating the regime, which might happen shortly, would be okay.) Trump is America First, and Iran is a sworn and dangerous enemy of the US. They’re a major supporter of terror against us. We’re the “Great Satan,” remember? The fact that the nuke strike also helped Israel was not a cause, but more of a bonus.
Same with Maduro. Venezuela was a hub for anti-American influence: China, Antifa, and lots more. It was a major lifeline for Cuba, the Western hemisphere hub of anti-Americanism since Castro.
MAGA does not want to get into lengthy wars, boots on the ground, or fruitless democracy-building exercises like Iraq or Afghanistan. MAGA is fine with surgical actions that take out major foreign enemies.
A lot of people see the shock and awe and forget thus far we’ve gone home immediately after. There is obviously the chance we fuck up and it turns into a morass, but credit to Trump it hasn’t happened yet.
If Hazony is opposed to the West, I really fear what happens after Bibi. Seems like the Israeli right will go in for Ben Gvir or similar chest-thumping Mizrahism. Anyway, good articool, I hope it's not too late to land with the Tucker Carlsons of the world who have blundered hardest over this stuff.
Ben Gvir...the Kurd....the Bureaucrat has funny posts on him.
Quite enjoyable and well-said.
“another Mediterranean hive of hairy greasers howling about their superstitions” lol
BAP really knows how to drive a point!
To play devil's advocate, the strongest current barrier to American and Western withdrawal from the Middle East is the Zionist lobby. By contrast, the pro-Palestine people (who I agree are very cringe and potentially dangerous) have close to 0 institutionalized power or control over the levers of government, and (for now) have a stronger anti-interventionist streak. They are also more popular than the Zionists with Zoomers. Overall, it seems more productive to attack Zionism, Israel, and Philosemitism than to attack the pro-Palestine crowd. But I don't know, i humble genetix sperg.
The ONLY place in the world where white-ish young men, some of them of high IQ, are forming what could be described as "mannerbund" (in fagtalk) and engaging in direct action to push their brown-ish enemies off the land is Israel (Yehuda and the Shomron.)
The ONLY place in the world where the white-ish natives, many of them of high IQ, are willing to fight their enemies in the ranks of an army, blow up their houses, hear the ululations of their women, is Israel (btw, there was quite a bit of close combat during the first phase of the war, but then Hamas understood that this generally only went one way and resorted to IEDs and the occasional small raid.)
The ONLY place in the world where white-ish young people are having lots of babies and raising them to have lots of babies themselves is Israel.
Your response to this tremendous development is to ignore it and condemn Bari Weiss and Ben Shapiro, who just represent an alternative form of yeastlife to your gym-and-studio apartment-based "vitalism."
Sad!
jews are not white, they are sand-negroes and generally hate White Christians with contempt
Okay Yahya lol
He’s not wrong on the second count
Quick question, did the Nazis turn your grandma into a lampshade too? Israelis themselves are dirty brown people, you are not and never will be white
I have almost never read an article I agree 100% with. You have accomplished that. You touched on literally all of my objections to both the pro-Israel right and anti-israel right.
Based!
Very interesting article, I think you miss the central point of the discussion:
1) A lasting solution for the Palestinian cause would automatically pre-empt discussions/the reflex for"forever war" in the Middle East and would therefore make US military disengagement from the region much more possible and likely.
Excellent article as usual BAP
My position has been the Palestinian thing is bad because there is a possibility the United States gets pulled into another stupid middle eastern war because Israel is an American “ally”. The right should not give a shit about either people, but should be genuinely concerned about impacts to our own country caused by Israeli belligerence.
They are a loose cannon and a massive destabilizing force in the region. Its not just Iran at this point, the list of countries they’ve bombed in the last few years is approaching double digits. The whole Iran revolt reeks of mossad and if it had succeeded then the US would’ve been impacted by a shaken oil market. The economy is global and middle eastern instability comes back to burn us.
Jewish action creating real harm to our lives is what I argue to be the correct path forwards.
An esoteric reading: “the American postwar order’s carveout for Israel is real but limited. Thus the noble dream of Jabotinsky et al decayed into bearded Semites screaming in pee stained robes. If America turns away completely, Israel’s internal hard right can seize power finally. This could make Israel based and NS again, saving the country, and preventing its slow decline.* Otherwise, said decline culminates in Israelis migrating to the West.”
Could be reduced to a slogan like “ignore Israel to save Israel” -> “save israel because otherwise they’ll move here”
Critics could argue that a West capable of allowing Israel’s destruction would be equally capable of turning away their emigrants, but this is speculation—the campus left wouldn’t turn away Israelis as they don’t believe in borders, and there is no other meaningful faction here that would allow said destruction.
Excellent article as always
*and also be “the most antisemitic act ever conceived”?
"The matters of Israel, Palestine and associated concepts like “antisemitism” seem to be far more important for the so-called “elite” than for the American people."
Thats because MOST american people, have to get TRICKED into all this. Through jew control over the false government and media. The american people, are NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW, that the jew is calling all the shots behind this.
The "elite", DO KNOW, who they work for.
Oct 7th was a declaration of war between Pro-China Israelis against Anti-China Israelis from my orignal belief and from my long term analysis. However, I had the two factions mixed up. It appears the Pro-China ones have been supporting Trump until recently. Until after he eliminated China's oil dealer